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Default Do out-of-London bus passes work on London bus touch-pads?

Since I'm over 60 and living in England outside London I have an over-60
bus pass, which our local council persists in calling a Smart Card. It
does indeed contains an RFID chip which is supposed to be
ITSO-compliant. I was told my an apparent expert on my local Council
that it ought to work on the touch-pads on London buses, which are
designed to cope with Oyster cards and Freedom Passes and maybe more.
I just tried mine yesterday on a number 9 bus but it did not work (of
course I was able to board as soon as I showed the driver the front of
the card).

Does anyone else from outside the London Freedom Pass area but who holds
a Bus Pass know if it works on buses in London (or anywhere else, I've
had problems with mine in Oxford too)?

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"Clive Page" wrote in message
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Since I'm over 60 and living in England outside London I have an over-60
bus pass, which our local council persists in calling a Smart Card. It
does indeed contains an RFID chip which is supposed to be ITSO-compliant.


It will be ITSO compliant - the problem is that the Oyster system, and
therefore the readers on the buses aren't yet - although ITSO compatibility
was supposedly being trialled and then rolled out generally at some stage.

OTOH I believe London Freedom passes were replaced and are both Oyster and
ITSO compliant so they can be used elsewhere in England where the bus
readers are already ITSO standard...

Paul S

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In message , at 12:47:00 on
Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Paul Scott remarked:

OTOH I believe London Freedom passes were replaced and are both Oyster
and ITSO compliant so they can be used elsewhere in England where


if?

the bus readers are already ITSO standard...


This ITSO newsletter makes it sound very much like work in progress:

http://www.itsonews.com/content/news...uly%202011.pdf

For example, it sounds like Leicester is already ITSO compliant, whereas
Nottingham has just received some funding to convert to an ITSO scheme
(a symptom of being an early adopter of smart cards over ten years ago,
I suspect).
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In article , (Roland Perry) wrote:


For example, it sounds like Leicester is already ITSO compliant,
whereas Nottingham has just received some funding to convert to an
ITSO scheme


Hampshire Bus (Stagecoach) is in the process now as well.

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 12:47:00 on Sat,
20 Aug 2011, Paul Scott remarked:

OTOH I believe London Freedom passes were replaced and are both Oyster and
ITSO compliant so they can be used elsewhere in England where


if?

the bus readers are already ITSO standard...


Yes, that's what I meant - I should have used 'wherever' the bus readers are
already ITSO...

Paul



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On 20/08/2011 14:50, Paul Scott wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 12:47:00 on
Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Paul Scott remarked:

OTOH I believe London Freedom passes were replaced and are both
Oyster and ITSO compliant so they can be used elsewhere in England where


if?

the bus readers are already ITSO standard...


Yes, that's what I meant - I should have used 'wherever' the bus readers
are already ITSO...

Paul


IIRC, Amsterdam also uses a smartcard, at least for the area that it
covers. But can that smartcards be used throughout the Netherlands,
seeing that the entire country is zoned?

BTW, when will it be possible to use Oystercards to exit and enter at
Brighton?
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:31:44 +0100, "
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IIRC, Amsterdam also uses a smartcard, at least for the area that

it
covers. But can that smartcards be used throughout the Netherlands,
seeing that the entire country is zoned?


Yes, or at least that's the plan. But it is kilometric plus a base
cost (waived on changing) with no capping - far simpler than Oyster.

Neil

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On 20/08/2011 20:07, wrote:

I think I've had my Cambridge-issued ass accepted by a bus reader but I'm
not absolutely sure.


I've heard of carrying dogs just in case you need an escalator, but....

Let's hope no Americans try to board and touch in.
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lid (Arthur Figgis) wrote:

On 20/08/2011 20:07,
wrote:

I think I've had my Cambridge-issued ass accepted by a bus reader but
I'm not absolutely sure.


I've heard of carrying dogs just in case you need an escalator, but....

Let's hope no Americans try to board and touch in.


Oops! s/ass/pass/.

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