In article . com, () wrote:

Depends which war you mean, young man. Certainly not pre world war
2 if this former resident is to be believed, talking about
trolleybuses - among the first routes given to Routemasters were
trolleybus replacements... THis would have been around 1960.

"They ran from either West Ham [WH] or Poplar [PR] depots, both now
demolished and housing estates built on the sites, although the West
Ham Depot site is remembered as one of the street names there is
named Routemaster Close."

Routemasters entered mainstream service on 11th November 1959 when 74 vehicles were allocated to Poplar and West Ham garages to replace trolleybuses under stage IV of the London Trolleybus Conversion scheme. Once that conversion was completed in 1962 later deliveries of RMs replaced RT type vehicles.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Arrrgh - the curse of using Google Groups to post to usenet strikes
again!

I've been caught similarly myself.

I called you Mike Harrison as your email address is displayed as


Should you wish it is possibly to change your display name to... well,
whatever you want. But please don't do it on my account!


Yes, it would, I suppose. I tend to forget that. Still, a rose by any
other name...

And yes I did see that you said Wikipedia "ruefully" noted the common
confusion - having read the Wikipedia entry I must admit I didn't
really get the sense that it was a rueful note

Having re-read it myself, I think you're right - any ruefulness was
being felt by me, I think.

I'm certain, on this point, your rue is shared by many others.


Anyway I shall be careful not to misrepresent you in the future, not
least by using your correct name ;-)

Don't lose any sleep over it!

The apparent seriousness of my earlier post concerning who said or
stated what when and to whom belies the lightheartedness in which I
wrote it. No sleep will be lost!

On 19 Dec 2006 08:40:43 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

Arrrgh - the curse of using Google Groups to post to usenet strikes
again!

The moral of the story, of course, is to get a newsreader and an NSP.

wrote in
ps.com:

Is it the one off the south west side of Greengate Street, between Gad
Close and Barbers Alley?

I've looked it up on Windows Live Search - if you can copy this whole
link without line wrapping you can see the little estate which
includes Routemaster Close. It looks later than pre-war to me - the
roofs look quite recent, and prewar estates didn't have so much car
parking, did they?

The estate is the group of buildings immediately behind the sports
pitch with the red fence. This view is looking east. There is a yellow
van parked on the RH side of Routemaster Close.

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v...302&style=o&lv
l=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=4267951





Yep that's the street. Wow, that's better than Google Earth!

James Farrar wrote:

On 19 Dec 2006 08:40:43 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

Arrrgh - the curse of using Google Groups to post to usenet strikes
again!

The moral of the story, of course, is to get a newsreader and an NSP.

No, not for me it's not. I use different computers, some not under my
control, when I post here. If it wasn't for Google Groups (GG) I
probably wouldn't be posting at all.

The futurologists increasingly bang on about web applications -
i.e.services accessed through a browser where previously one would have
used a full scale PC application. Webmail is an early example, lots of
the other stuff is at a fledgling stage such as Writely, some offers
simplified functionality compared to the full application (MSN Web
Messenger, Google Talk via the Gmail web interface). I see usenet as a
great example of something that can be accessed via the web instead of
via a full-on application.

The implementation of GG is a bit silly in places, as is what sometimes
seems like a thoroughly misguided attempt by Google to claim usenet for
itself. However given a bit of taming GG is very usable, though it
could do better. The mistake I made above is exactly that - my mistake
rather than that of Google Groups.

If there was some paid-for usenet web service that properly addressed
these failings, I'd pay up. The foreseeable problem is that any such
service probably wouldn't provide anything like an equivalently
powerful search function that GG provides.

Incidentally GG is currently running a new beta service that I haven't
played around with yet, which might address some of it's failings. I
shall investigate further.

On 19 Dec 2006 15:37:10 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

The implementation of GG is a bit silly in places,

And the rest of the places it's disastrous.

It's simultaneously lowered the clue barrier to using usenet whilst
requiring a high level of clue to use GG to post to usenet
effectively.

Tristán White wrote:

Yep that's the street. Wow, that's better than Google Earth!

Windows Live Local shows the Shortlands Box which doesn't yet appear on
Google Earth. It must be 2 or 3 years old now.

thoss wrote:

There's a b&w photo of the bus, with a contingent of "Wehrmacht troops
and the Big Ben tower behind. The bus is an AEC, number DLU92, with the
destination indicator saying
159
STREATHAM COMMON
LAMBETH BDG BRIXTON

And the cover has a close-up in colour of the driver cab, with a pair of
identification plates reading "AK 15".

A quick bit of Googling suggests that makes it an AEC Regent I,
delivered to LT in June 1937 and originally allocated fleet number STL
2093, allocated to Cricklewood Garage.

Its final London allocation was to Stockwell (hence the AK running
plate), before disposal in 1955. It spent a few years with Reliance
Motor Services of Newbury, running with fleet number 39, before being
purchased for preservation by a Mr D Cowing in May 1958.

Cheers,

Barry

Tristán White wrote:

Trying to work out where it was taken. My guess is Edgware, the first
platform you come to on the right hand side which is on its own. I don't
know the number of the platform.

Am I right?

That is platform 1. The platform is only used at peak hours. (At least
it used to be).

In message om,
writes
Is it the one off the south west side of Greengate Street, between Gad
Close and Barbers Alley?

I've looked it up on Windows Live Search - if you can copy this whole
link without line wrapping you can see the little estate which includes
Routemaster Close. It looks later than pre-war to me - the roofs look
quite recent, and prewar estates didn't have so much car parking, did
they?

The estate is the group of buildings immediately behind the sports
pitch with the red fence. This view is looking east. There is a yellow
van parked on the RH side of Routemaster Close.

It's got to be about 1980s as I remember visiting WH garage some years
ago. They had just taken delivery of the S class Scanias. All the
houses in Routemaster Close and Gad Close are built on the site of the
old garage.

Just checked, it still had an allocation of 113 in 1987.
--
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