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  #131  
Old July 3rd 09, 01:17 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Tom Anderson
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 1 July, 07:28, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
Does TfL have to pass any public enquiry to consider needs such as mobility,
particularly the removal of guaranteed step-free routes


Allegedly, any "Circle Line" train terminating at Edgware Road will
offer a cross platform connection to an onward train, so in theory a
guaranteed step-free route will continue to exist.


How about if they turned the central through lines into bays, and filled
in (in practice, this means building a platform-level bridge) between the
two platforms at the eastern end? You could then walk between all four
platform faces.

You lose a bit of flexibility, but it would fit the proposed service
pattern much better.

tom

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  #132  
Old July 3rd 09, 01:28 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Mizter T
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On Jul 3, 2:17*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 1 July, 07:28, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
Does TfL have to pass any public enquiry to consider needs such as mobility,
particularly the removal of guaranteed step-free routes


Allegedly, any "Circle Line" train terminating at Edgware Road will
offer a cross platform connection to an onward train, so in theory a
guaranteed step-free route will continue to exist.


How about if they turned the central through lines into bays, and filled
in (in practice, this means building a platform-level bridge) between the
two platforms at the eastern end? You could then walk between all four
platform faces.

You lose a bit of flexibility, but it would fit the proposed service
pattern much better.


That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/2213943823/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekylittlemonkey81/3204472650/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekylittlemonkey81/3204469020/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekylittlemonkey81/3203648933/

....which is still apparently in use - it gets rolled out in the
morning for school traffic, I think someone said.

Also, shades of the moveable platform arrangement at the old White
City Central line station.
  #133  
Old July 3rd 09, 02:03 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Mr Thant
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On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:
That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....c78c93c83fda4c

U
  #134  
Old July 3rd 09, 02:18 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Mizter T
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On Jul 3, 3:03 pm, Mr Thant wrote:

On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:

That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....c78c93c83fda4c


Full credit to you sir! I'm sure I only said it as a result of your
drawbridge suggestion swilling around in teh back of my demi-conciousness

  #135  
Old July 3rd 09, 02:24 PM posted to uk.transport.london
MIG
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On 3 July, 15:18, "Mizter T" wrote:
On Jul 3, 3:03 pm, Mr Thant wrote:

On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:


That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....g/dbc78c93c83f...


Full credit to you sir! I'm sure I only said it as a result of your
drawbridge suggestion swilling around in teh back of my demi-conciousness


Wasn't it followed up by someone pointing out that there is frequent
use of the middle platform by trains arriving from the east?
  #136  
Old July 3rd 09, 09:29 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Tom Anderson
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Default Extended Circle trial this weekend

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:
That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....c78c93c83fda4c


Here at utl, we are thoroughly committed to recycling!

tom

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simple system that worked. -- Gall's Law
  #137  
Old July 3rd 09, 11:02 PM posted to uk.transport.london
rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk
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In article . li,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:
That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....c78c93c83fda4c

Here at utl, we are thoroughly committed to recycling!


Looks more like re-use to me!¬

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  #138  
Old July 3rd 09, 11:24 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Mizter T
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Default Extended Circle trial this weekend


On Jul 3, 10:29*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Mr Thant wrote:

On 3 July, 14:28, Mizter T wrote:
That's not a bad idea at all! It could even be moveable, like the
traverser crossing Brockenhurst traverser crossing...


What a brilliant idea!
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....g/dbc78c93c83f....


Here at utl, we are thoroughly committed to recycling!


By the sounds of it, a good number are also committed to re-Circling...
  #139  
Old July 6th 09, 03:45 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Andy
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Default Extended Circle trial this weekend

On 2 July, 08:29, wrote:
In article
,





(Andy) wrote:
On 1 July, 13:06, wrote:
In article

,


(Mr Thant) wrote:
On 1 July, 07:28, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
Does TfL have to pass any public enquiry to consider needs such as
mobility, particularly the removal of guaranteed step-free routes


Allegedly, any "Circle Line" train terminating at Edgware Road will
offer a cross platform connection to an onward train, so in theory a
guaranteed step-free route will continue to exist.


Whether they'll be able to honour this promise is another question
entirely.


More the the point, there is no such promise in the other
direction.


Yes there is, you change onto a District line service at Edgware Road
(which should leave from the adjacent platform),if you then wish a
Circle line service, you change again at a station between Paddington
and High Street Kensington. In fact, heading west from Edgware Road
was never going to be the problem, it is maintaining the planned
platform for interchange heading east that will be.


Two changes!


So? You were asking for step-free, not minimal changes, the time
penalty is only going to be five minutes, less than going the wrong
way around the Circle.
 




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