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Old July 15th 10, 12:58 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Dalston J bus opening and ELL worry

On 15 July, 13:12, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 15, 12:29*pm, MIG wrote:





On 15 July, 11:05, Tom Barry wrote:


eastender wrote:
Does anyone know when the bus station and rear exit at Dalston Junction
is opening? It's been finished as far as I can see for a while but the
staff have no idea when.


Also, there's still very few people on the ELL - at least when I've been
on it - eg changing from a grossly overcrowded Jubilee at Canada Water
yesterday at about 6.30pm and heading north - I'm worried services will
be cut.


They can't cut the top bit without cutting the bottom bit, logically,
and from what I'm hearing people are preferring ELLX services into
Canada Water over Southeastern into London Bridge, so I think it's safe,
particularly if/when we get the step change in Jubilee capacity. *Also
the northern bit is very much a work in progress due to City office
construction projects, Crossrail, extension to High & I etc. *I don't
see any reason to suppose that it'll be any less successful than the
rest of the Overground once that's all in place.


When I see ELL trains at New Cross, there is never more than a handful
of people at any time of day. *That branch seems to be getting less
use now than it ever did.


The other branch seems to be more successful, or more heavily used
anyway. *Partly it's down to that being what's more likely to turn
up. *I mean, if you turn up randomly at Forest Hill, there's more
chance that the first train will be going to Canada Water. *That
doesn't really mean it's preferred, just that people get on what comes
and don't change.


Well, the interchange between ELL and Jubilee line at Canada Water is
very easy, compared to the interchange between NR and the Jubilee at
London Bridge - so for those heading west into town beyond London
Bridge on the Jubbly, the ELL route might well be preferred. Also, if
one is heading east on the Jubbly, then going to Canada Water would be
preferred choice rather than going all teh way in to London Bridge and
back out again. And it's not just people who work at Canary Wharf who
might be heading east.

I'd be interested to see New Cross at rush hour to try and observe the
flows.


I will try to make a point of observing a train more carefully in the
morning peak when I get the chance. If I pass in the evening or at
weekends, they are always empty when I see them, but that's not peak
for people getting on them. If I pass in the morning, there's a good
chance I'd be in a train too full to see out of. Needs some strategic
positioning.