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Old December 30th 10, 12:43 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Contacting TFL (and use of gold card "registered" oyster cards)


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Graham Harrison wrote:
"Tim Woodall" wrote in message
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But maybe some here can answer my question :-)

I (now) have registered my gold card on my PAYG oyster card. What I
want
to know is whether I can let someone else use my Oyster card if I am
travelling with them (This is like buying a discounted rail ticket for
someone else when you have to travel with them).

My gold card covers Watford Junction to London Euston so, when I'm
travelling with someone else they could reasonably use my PAYG oyster
while I'm using my gold card for the same journey.

Tim.


But...

You pass through a reader at Watford Junction (which I assume you do
regularly/daily). System says here's Tim Woodall with his Gold Card
(probably not that personal). 2 seconds later the same card passes the
same (or a different, no difference) reader. How is it supposed to know
that the 2nd pass is for a PAYG journey for a 2nd passenger?


My Gold card is a point to point season ticket (paper). My PAYG oyster
was, until yesterday, a completely unrelated piece of plastic.

AIUI it now just has a flag on it to say that I also possess a Gold
Card and therefore I am entitled to off peak discounts on PAYG fares.

I'm assuming that I still cannot use my PAYG oyster to open the
barriers at London and Watford Junction (at least I can but I'll be
charged PAYG rates for it.)

So if I was travelling with someone I would continue to use my paper
card to open the barriers for me. I wanted to know if someone else
could use my PAYG oyster as they were travelling with me.

I'd actually prefer it if I could use my Oyster card to open the
barriers but I've been told that it's impossible for me to do that (at
least I could do it but I'd have to get an all zones travelcard season
ticket)


The fact that my paper ticket also seems not to open the barriers at
Euston is a different problem. Yesterday it at least went through the
barrier, even if it just said "Seek Assistance". This morning
(replacement ticker) it wouldn't even go into the barrier - mind you,
even the guard had to get a key out to open the barrier and couldn't
use his magic card so maybe today it's not my ticket that was the
problem. As I pretty much always have my Brompton with me I use the
manual gate at Watford.

Tim.


In which case http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/899.aspx item 6.1.3
would appear to apply:

6.1.3. Unless it has a valid season ticket on it, you can transfer your
Oyster card to another person for them to pay as they go. If you have a
season ticket on your Oyster card, you cannot transfer it to anyone else to
pay as they go. If the Oyster card is registered/protected, it will remain
in your name and we will only be able to deal with any enquiries about the
Oyster card if made by you. You will still be responsible for the Oyster
card and any use made of it. We will not accept responsibility for any
losses arising out of the transfer and use of your Oyster card.