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Old June 24th 14, 08:22 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default TfL acknowledges contactless technology risk

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT), CJB
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From RISKS-LIST: Risks-Forum Digest Tuesday 24 June 2014 Volume 28 : Issue 04

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:41:13 +0100
From: Wm redacted

Subject: London transport authority acknowledges contactless technology risk

How many organisations have warned users of their cards about the risks vs
how many have been discovered and reported ?

I was checking the balance on my Oyster card [1] on-line and noticed this:

http://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments...ter/card-clash

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Card clash

Keeping your Oyster card in your wallet or purse with other cards could
cause card clash.

If you keep your Oyster card in your wallet or purse with your bank cards,
you might occasionally see a red light when you touch it on a card reader at
stations and on buses. The red light means you haven't paid for your journey
and if you are at a ticket gate, it may not open. This can happen even if
you've got enough pay as you go credit or a valid Travelcard on your Oyster
card because you could be experiencing 'card clash'.

Many cards are now issued with contactless technology - the same as Oyster
cards:

* Most bank, credit and charge card companies are issuing new cards
ready for contactless payments

* Many companies, educational establishments now issue contactless
cards for cashless catering or as building entry passes

If you touch your Oyster card on a yellow card reader when it's in the same
wallet or purse as another contactless card, the reader may detect more than
one card. When this happens, the card reader doesn't know which one to read
so rejects them and you could experience any of the following:

* The ticket gate does not open.

* You get a red light when you touch in on a yellow card reader on a bus,
ticket gate or free-standing yellow card reader.

* On buses, where contactless payment cards are accepted, your fare could be
charged to a card that you did not intend to pay with.

To avoid card clash:

* Don't touch a wallet or purse with multiple cards on the yellow card
reader.

* Keep your Oyster card separate from your contactless payment cards only
touch the card you want to use on the reader when touching in and out.

Later in 2014, when contactless payment cards are accepted for travel on
Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and most National Rail services in
London, one of the following could also happen:

* Your fare could be charged to a card you didn't intend to pay with.

* You could be charged two maximum fares if the card reader reads one card
when you touch in at the start of your journey and a different card at the
end when you touch out.

* Remember to separate your Oyster card from other contactless cards when
touching in and out.

[1] Oyster is a plastic smartcard which can hold pay as you go credit,
Travelcards and Bus & Tram season tickets. You can use an Oyster card to
travel on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and most National Rail
services in London.


This all looks like commonsense to me - and I only visit the capital
occasionally.