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Old August 31st 18, 10:21 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:11:54 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
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Hobsons choice. I can guarantee that once crossrail is up and running and
tourists know about it the picc will become a ghost line. Few people apart
from local residents and maybe heathrow workers are going to use that

hopeless
service to slog into london when they can do it in 1/4 the time for the same

or
slightly more money (not sure of crossrail costs to heathrow).


For many places in central London, the Piccadilly will still be the better
choice. For example, Crossrail has no interchanges with the Piccadilly or
Victoria lines, so it won't necessarily be the best choice for anyone who
wants to get to any of the stations on those lines. Prices will also be
significantly higher than using LU all the way (I've already posted the
fares upthread), though that may not be a factor for many Heathrow
travellers.

So, while Crossrail will undoubtedly reduce the overcrowding on Piccadilly
line trains, they'll still stay quite busy. It's different to HEx, that
only has speed as an advantage over Crossrail; the Piccadilly also wins on
convenience for many destinations. For example, Crossrail is the obvious
choice for getting from Heathrow to Paddington or Liverpool Street, but the
Piccadilly will remain better for Kings Cross or Victoria.


Farrindgon is one stop from KX. By the time you've taken crossrail from
Heathrow, changed at Farringdon and arrive at KX the alternate piccadilly
line train might just have made it to Hammersmith. But more likely will be
stuck at Acton Town with a signal failure.


Heathrow Central to Kings Cross is 55 mins on the Tube, with no changes and
12 tph. Allow 2 mins waiting time, so 57 mins overall.

On Crossrail, it will be 31 mins to Farringdon, 6tph. Allowing 5 mins
waiting time, that's 36 mins. Then allow 10 mins to change to Thameslink,
and say 3 mins journey time to Kings Cross, so it's about 49 mins total. Is
it worth the hassle of changing trains with luggage, and up to triple the
fare, to save just eight minutes?

You may think so, but many others will disagree.