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Old December 16th 18, 01:24 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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On 15/12/2018 14:58, tim... wrote:


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Presumably rental companies have a way to provide this

Well I suppose they'll provide the website if you don't know it already.
It's the one I gave you a link for where it states "you can set up an
electronic pass before you leave home or up to three days after you
travel on a toll road".


I assume that rental companies supply cars with the tags in place

surely most users are going to want this?


I assume you either did not read


I read it

or did not understand my post which included "you can set up an electronic
pass before you leave home


not much use for someone whose home is a different country

or up to three days after you travel on a toll road".


How convenient is this going to be when you are on the road staying in a
different Motel each night?

And did not bother to go to the Sydney site.


and I did this

But I'll try just one last time:

a. the cars don't come with tags: that'd mean the rental companies had to
allocate the tolls to hirers and collect the money, with scope for
arguments about the quantum, and so even more admin costs - costs they'd
pass on just like you don't want


yes I know

but my point is that surely they do this, for those people for which getting
a pass is too inconvenient (I.e. almost every foreign visitor, which In a
country like Oz is going to be a large percentage of renters)

That there is an annoying need for the rental companies to administer the
charges incurred during the rental period, is the part of the solution that
should have been engineered out by the implementation.

Foreigners driving rental cars is likely to be a non negligible part of the
usage. A user friendly solution should have been engineered in.


b. it's down to the renter to register and pay


if "setting up an electronic pass" simply means registering a credit card
against a reg number, then that's a pretty poor choice of language, IMHO.

the term electronic pass implies to me that a piece of hardware is involved.

(and the fact that there is information on the website about having to put
your own pass in a shielded bag if you get a rental car with a pass confirms
that a piece of hardware IS involved)

c. only if the renter doesn't pay does the rental company get involved.


But how does the casual renter pay?

tim