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Old January 26th 19, 10:20 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Anna Noyd-Dryver Anna Noyd-Dryver is offline
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Default When the software meets the hardware

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:52:16 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 20:22:39 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
The vacuum flush saves water and retention tank capacity and allows the
train to run a whole day (or maybe two, for those which outstable) without
tanking;

How delightful. A mobile sewage farm.


The alternative is for the entire railway to be the sewage farm.


I meant in the sense of them no necessarily being emptied every night.


How else would you deal with the sets which outstable at Hereford,
Worcester and Exeter?

So the toilets are complex so that when a fault occurs due to their

complexity
a technician can be notified? Calling Mr Heller....


Conventional toilets get blocked too. Conventional toilet door locks fail
too. Conventional toilets run out of water too...


I can't remember the last time the toilets in my office failed never mind
my house. As for the locks failing, who the hell cares? Keep it shut with your
foot.


How does that work with a sliding door, a wheelchair user, or even a
non-wheelchair user in the accessible toilets where the door is too far
away? Or the occasional station toilet cubicle where the door opens
outwards...

The toilets in your house presumably aren’t used as intensively as train
ones? Over the years I’ve known domestic toilets get blocked, flush broken,
flushes which only work with a certain technique, multiple flushes needed
to actually clear the bowl... Mess room toilets which perhaps approach
train toilet frequency of use, get blocked often enough that people add the
word 'again' when they talk about it...

Perhaps install more toilets in stations and get rid of them on trains
altogether. We're a small island, there are no journeys really long enough to


make them worthwhile except maybe the overnight sleeper to scotland but thats


not a commuter train.


People travelling 5h30 from Paddington to Penzance might disagree.


Possibly, but those sort of journeys are probably 1 in 1000. There's little
reason to have toilets on most multiple units IMO, certainly not something
like Thameslink where the average journey is probably 45 mins.



Round here the commuter trains are often in the middle of long journeys,
between 4 and 10 hours end-to-end. Just because I’m only on board for 15
minutes doesn’t mean everyone else is.


Anna Noyd-Dryver