On 28/03/2019 14:23, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:24:52 on Thu, 28 Mar
2019, Anna Noyd-Dryver remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:51:27 on Wed,
27 Mar 2019, Natalie Amery remarked:

There aren't all that many Underground stations with public toilets,
either. The only one that springs to mind immediately is Barons Court,
we'd just travelled from Hounslow West and my other half was absolutely
bursting by the time we got there.

More than you'd think:

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf

That's not toilets at TfL stations, it's largely toilets somewhere near
TfL stations. The clue being the black lozenge "outside the gateline".

With a side order of "Dagger": not managed by TfL.

Only the dagger means it’s not toilets at TfL stations (and not necessarily
even then; red-with-dagger ie not TfL managed but still inside the gateline
features on the map).

There's three situations:

Inside the gateline (and probably inevitably managed by TfL, but
no doubt someone can find a counter-example)

Outside the gateline but managed by TfL (and probably therefore
quite close to the gateline/ticket office but no doubt someone
can find a counter-example)

Situated and managed by "someone else".

Most stations on the map aren’t marked with the dagger.

I can't see any in Z1 which aren't.

I can't see why that matters. But if it does there's Baker Street. Plus
Shoreditch High Street on the Overground.

If you wish to claim that toilets outside the gateline, but in the station
building and managed by the station operator aren’t "at" the station, then
surely many NR stations with toilets also "don’t" have them (eg Paddington,
Bristol Parkway, Swansea).

"Station operator" - see above for whether that's TfL or National Rail.
So yes, a toilet at say Kings Cross sited and managed by the NR operator
(in that case Network Rail) isn't in the tube station.



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