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Old December 9th 19, 02:53 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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In message , at 13:57:02 on Mon, 9 Dec 2019,
Graeme Wall remarked:
On 09/12/2019 13:41, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:21:14 on Mon, 9 Dec
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
As for money to burn, it started as a toll road, but then got
swept* up into a government-funded "shovels ready" project to
stimulate the* economy* due to the construction jobs created.

And there was me thinking that after the M6T disaster all of
the constriction companies told HMG to "go swivel" when they
sounded them* out about taking on the risk of the tolling

The difference with the A14, and why being a toll road was
always a* rather dodgy public policy decision, is that it would
effectively* have* a monopoly on that particular flow, something
which could* never have* been said about the M6T. Think more like


*AIUI it wasn't suggested as a monopoly as the plan was to have
through* traffic tolled, local traffic un-tolled.* *And the
insurmountable problem with that was "how do you construct* it so
that it is fair to local traffic without having a* non-negligible
volume* of through traffic trying to become local* traffic and
clogging up the* local route, whilst leaving the through* route underused".

Which is the problem with all road-pricing schemes.

*Didn't seem to bother the people funding the Dartford Crossing.

Don't recall a rat-run being available to avoid the Dartford crossing.

It's called the Rotherhithe Tunnel.


Which is a major detour through very congested streets for some miles,
not a case of using a parallel minor road to a main route.


Precisely. And the new A14 is just the same. There is no parallel minor
road for the green fields 8 miles they opened today.

As an example of what I refer to, the A33, mostly single carriageway,
runs parallel to the M3 between Basingstoke and Winchester. Road
pricing on the motorway would, inevitably, led to traffic using the A33
instead.


I'm discussing the A14.
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Roland Perry