In message , at 11:06:01 on Thu, 17 Dec
2020, NY remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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Leaving out the Moorgate to FP section of GN - even if they don't include
the rest - is just cretinous and a disservice to passengers.

I'm not sure why it's worse than leaving out the Waterloo-Wimbledon
(etc) National Rail routes.

I'm not sure where one should draw the line (pun *not* intended!)
between which lines to include and which to omit.

You could be strict and only include traditional London Underground
lines, and exclude Thameslink and London Overground (since those were
traditionally British Rail / Network Rail).

At one extreme it could be any on which Oyster is accepted. At the other
only those which traverse Zone 1. I note they exclude the National Rail
line via Olympia (Milton Keynes to Wandsworth Common and points south).

You could additionally include London Overground. You could include
GOBLIN, North London Line and Thameslink and Finsbury Park to Moorgate.
But should you go further and include a selection of other Network Rail
services?

When FP-Moorgate was first transferred to British Rail, it was included
as a courtesy service on Underground maps, maybe because until 1976 it
had been a tube line (though not a very useful one in its final days,
because there was a gap between Old Street as the northern terminus of
the Moorgate line and BR services that called at FP).

I suppose the criterion for inclusion might be whether a typical ticket
for use on the Underground would or wouldn't allow you to use a
non-Underground line that called at stations within the zones that your
ticket covers. I don't know much about Oyster and tickets bought at
Underground stations because whenever I went up to London I bought a
Day Rover (Capitalcard) ticket which covered me for my return journey
into London and then unlimited use of Underground and NR trains within
the Greater London area (maybe out to Zone 9 on the new map that is
being discussed) - so I was a bit pampered in automatically having an
all-zones ticket. It's also a good 10 or more years since I've been to
London...

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Roland Perry