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Old February 4th 21, 12:56 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Ryanair to axe UK domestic and non-EU routes

In message , at 11:56:15 on
Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Recliner remarked:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:13:06 +0000, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 10:54:24 on Thu, 4 Feb 2021,
Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:26:10 on Thu, 4 Feb 2021,
Recliner remarked:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...lans-axe-domes
tic-routes/

Ryanair's spat with the Civil Aviation Authority escalated on Wednesday
night as plans emerged to axe all domestic routes and all services from
Britain to non-EU countries.

The budget carrier will only operate out of London Stansted airport and
will cull 13 routes to Morocco, Ukraine, Montenegro, and Norway.

A row erupted in December between Ryanair and the CAA over pre-Brexit rule
changes. At the centre of the dispute is Ryanair’s use of so-called
“wet-leasing”, where airlines hire aircraft and crew to operate
services on
their behalf.

Ryanair only has one UK-registered aircraft. The CAA wanted less than half
of Ryanair’s UK services to be run by “wet leased” aircraft.

Ryanair is believed to have planned to increase its number of UK
registered
aircraft to three by April 2021 and offered a pool of aircraft under a
“white list” approach. This was rejected by the CAA on Jan 22,
according to
industry sources.

Ryanair and CAA did not comment on Wednesday night.

The CAA’s Paul Smith said at the time: “A UK airline with a significant
presence in the UK, should not rely heavily on using wet-leased,
foreign-registered aircraft.”

Is the wet-leasing something to do with delays in delivery of 737Max, of
which they've reportedly got 210 on order?

I suspect FR-UK is wet-leasing 738s from FR-Ireland. The CAA wants at least
half of FR-UK's non-EU flights to be on UK-registered planes. I don't think
it's anything to do with 737 MAX delays, as FR has plenty of 738s, more
than enough to meet current demand.


It's all a bit opaque to the traveller, who might assume that the only
airport "Ryanair" is operating from in the UK is Stansted.

But yes, Ryanair-Ireland is flying from Dublin to all their traditional
destinations in the UK on at least some days of the week, some months in
their schedule.


Yes, I think it means that they are threatening to close all their UK
bases except Stansted.


Who is "they"? The prospect of Ryanair-UK being disjoint from
Ryanair-Eire has already been floated.

At the moment Ryanair-Stansted isn't running any UK internal flights.

Other UK cities will still get flights from other, non-UK FR bases.

I don't know if it's up to date, but Wiki lists Belfast, Birmingham,
Bournemouth, Bristol, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Prestwick,
Leeds-Bradford, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester and Stansted as UK bases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ryanair_destinations#List

So, FR is threatening to close all but one of those UK bases, with the
cities served, if at all, by aircraft based elsewhere.


Yes, I've already listed UK-airports-which-aren't-Stansted getting
flights from Dublin, but that's the only place they seem to be getting
them from.

Is there a transfer passenger market here - Flights from Stansted to
(say) Morocco suspended, but flights from various places to Dublin, then
Dublin to Morocco still running?

[For the purposes of this discussion I'm prepared to accept that Ryanair
won't guarantee such connections, let alone baggage transfer, in Dublin]
--
Roland Perry