On Dec 29, 12:36 am, "Lew 1"
wrote:
It suddenly struck me yesterday when I was up in London, why do TFL
still use the old British Rail logo? Whenever you get to a station
with an overground rail connection, there are signs saying "Trains"
with an arrow and the old logo.

It's *not* an old logo. Every railway station in the country shows that
logo - its accepted as the standard design in the UK meaning "Railway",
regardless of who is running the trains. National Rail still use it, maps
still use it... why would you change it? (Incidentally, what is the name of
this logo, I remember someone telling me once but I have forgotten!)

In fact I'd also like to what they
think the things that run on the Underground are if not "trains"?

In non enthusiast speak, they are tubes - even the sub-surface stock. So,
the rail symbol and the word trains quite easily conveys National Trains.

On the southbound Bakerloo platfrom at Waterloo, there's still a sign
that says "British Rail" in blue illuminated glass. Its on both sides
of the sign, so I wonder of this is a deliberate.

I doubt it, but why change it? It is blindingly obvious what it means. Plus,
whilst British Rail as an organisation may be defunct, the term "british
rail" is still an accurate description of where the sign is pointing too.
Plus, these days, if you put the TOC name on it you'll have to replace the
sign every few years.

Now, If you look at the new "Overground" stickers going up on the
information signs at station, they also have the old BR logo printed
on them.
Why does this still happen?

London Overground is effectively a Train Operating Company on the national
rail network, just like One, c2c, SouthWest Trains, any others you may care
to mention, therefore the railway logo is still valid. TfL choose to
substantiate that with the Overground label which, given that they own
London Overground, is a fairly obvious thing to do.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

London Overground isn't quite like a TOC. It is a concession from TfL.
A private firm operate it on TfLs behalf. TfL set the timetable, fares
and staffing levels. They also retain 100% of the fares.

If a LO station only has LO services then it will eventually not have
the NR Double Arrow logo, there are some expections to this. There is
more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL website.

I completely agree with no changing all the signs unless essential.
Though there are still some high-profile signs up with Aldwych!