On Mar 13, 9:41*pm, "Richard J." wrote:
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On 13 Mar, 14:16, Paul Terry wrote:
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On 13 Mar, 13:31, Davide Trani wrote:
2for1 offers are valid only with rail tickets or paper travelcards
(with rail sign on it)
This isn't true, they are available for use with any travelcard.
However, you do need the record card to prove that you've got a
travelcard on your oystercard. (I don't know what the situation is
with weekly travelcards on Oyster and record cards).
According to the 2for1 website:

http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/faq.aspx

"The 2for1 London Attractions partners DO NOT recognise Oyster Cards as
being valid accompanying rail tickets."

I've never had a problem with my annual travelcard on Oyster, but that
has the associated Gold Card.
I suspect the Gold Card makes a big difference. Just presenting an
Oyster would not be proof that it is valid for the day concerned (unless
the attraction concerned had Oyster readers).

Yes, but that is mentioning Oyster used as a rail ticket, not as a
travelcard. That's why I asked about the record card for weekly
tickets, you used to always get one of these when you bought a weekly
on Oyster, but I don't know if they stopped. The site doesn't realise
that Travelcards on oyster ARE a national rail ticket, (unlike PAYG
most of the time). It would strike me as a bit odd if you could buy a
1 day travelcard from a LU ticket on paper and it would be valid, but
a 7 day one from the same spot is invalid because it is on Oyster
(again assuming that there is a record of the travelcard purchase),
after all the prices are same whether bought from LU or National Rail.

The point that you're missing is that the 2-for-1 offers are a promotion
partly funded by the National Rail TOCs to encourage people to travel to
London on their trains. *It's a loophole in that scheme that allows
someone who travelled to London by some other means, e.g. by air, to
obtain the 2-for-1 deals by going to a National Rail ticket office in
London and buying a travelcard. *To be valid for 2-for-1, the travelcard
must indicate that it was bought from a National Rail TOC.


Actually, I'm not missing that point at all. All travelcard revenue is
shared exactly the same way, a share to the issuer (be it LU, TOC,
newsagent), and shares to LU and ATOC. If you read the FAQ, it doesn't
say that it has to be issued by NR.

"Can I use Underground/tube only tickets and/or London Bus only
tickets?

No, except as shown below.

However if your travel ticket has an element of National Rail/train
company travel included, e.g. any type of 'paper' Travelcard, train/
tube inclusive ticket, then the answer is Yes. By way of recognition
if your travel ticket shows the Double-Arrow (or 'crows-foot')
National Rail logo you're generally safe to assume it is valid. If you
are unsure in any way please ask at your local staffed National Rail
station."

The point we are arguing about is whether a Travelcard on Oyster
counts, if you have a paper counterpart as well (different from PAYG
which definitely isn't valid). Certainly, I've never had any problem
using 2 for 1 with my LU issued Oyster Gold Card, which comes with a
paper part. It doesn't say that Travelcards on Oyster are not valid,
they are just not included in the list.