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DLR + NR PAYG Fares
I was a bit surprised to find that combined DLR + NR PAYG prices seem
to be the same as for LU only, rather than as for NR only or as for LU + NR. I hadn't had any reason to do it on PAYG till today, changing from DLR at Greenwich* and ending at London Bridge, and now I look in the Fare Finder, they all seem to be calculated that way with no alternatives. I thought I was getting reasonably knowledgeable about Oyster-related stuff, but I'd obviously missed that one. Incidentally, the fare to London Bridge LU does have the option of a combined LU + NR rate, but presumably you'd have to take DLR and LU to Charing Cross and get the train back or something to get charged that one. *And I had no idea whether I was more likely to get an unstarted journey at LB NR if I did or didn't touch while changing at Greenwich, but hoped neither. |
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DLR + NR PAYG Fares
On 16/09/10 11:48, MIG wrote:
I was a bit surprised to find that combined DLR + NR PAYG prices seem to be the same as for LU only, rather than as for NR only or as for LU + NR. That doesn't seem to be generally the case. The single fare finder prices Island Gardens to Deptford [National Rail] as 1.40 peak 1.30 off-peak, so it seems to be pricing that as NR+LU -- LU only would be 1.30 at all times. However, West India Quay to London Bridge [National Rail] for example does appear to be priced as LU only. I wonder if it's significant that this journey can also be made by DLR+tube. I guess it's just priced as if you only use TfL services, regardless of whether you actually use NR or not? -roy |
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DLR + NR PAYG Fares
On 18 Sep, 16:53, Roy Badami wrote:
On 16/09/10 11:48, MIG wrote: I was a bit surprised to find that combined DLR + NR PAYG prices seem to be the same as for LU only, rather than as for NR only or as for LU + NR. That doesn't seem to be generally the case. The single fare finder prices Island Gardens to Deptford [National Rail] as 1.40 peak 1.30 off-peak, so it seems to be pricing that as NR+LU -- LU only would be 1.30 at all times. However, West India Quay to London Bridge [National Rail] for example does appear to be priced as LU only. *I wonder if it's significant that this journey can also be made by DLR+tube. *I guess it's just priced as if you only use TfL services, regardless of whether you actually use NR or not? I wondered that, but there would normally be alternative fares shown. If you put London Bridge (NR) as the destination, it specifically offers only the LU fare. If you put London Bridge (LU) as the destination, it offers alternatives. Exiting the NR barrier at London Bridge, having previously touched only to start the journey at a non-interchange DLR station, deducts the LU fare. |
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DLR + NR PAYG Fares
On 19 Sep, 12:48, MIG wrote:
On 18 Sep, 16:53, Roy Badami wrote: On 16/09/10 11:48, MIG wrote: I was a bit surprised to find that combined DLR + NR PAYG prices seem to be the same as for LU only, rather than as for NR only or as for LU + NR. That doesn't seem to be generally the case. The single fare finder prices Island Gardens to Deptford [National Rail] as 1.40 peak 1.30 off-peak, so it seems to be pricing that as NR+LU -- LU only would be 1.30 at all times. However, West India Quay to London Bridge [National Rail] for example does appear to be priced as LU only. *I wonder if it's significant that this journey can also be made by DLR+tube. *I guess it's just priced as if you only use TfL services, regardless of whether you actually use NR or not? I wondered that, but there would normally be alternative fares shown. If you put London Bridge (NR) as the destination, it specifically offers only the LU fare. *If you put London Bridge (LU) as the destination, it offers alternatives. Exiting the NR barrier at London Bridge, having previously touched only to start the journey at a non-interchange DLR station, deducts the LU fare. I think the reason journeys to London Bridge are charged at the TfL rate is because it is possible to complete the journey using entirely TfL-rated services (i.e. using the Thameslink from somewhere like Farringdon). Even though this is not necessarily the most direct route the system might not have any way of knowing which way you went. |
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DLR + NR PAYG Fares
On 23 Sep, 16:10, Steve wrote:
On 19 Sep, 12:48, MIG wrote: On 18 Sep, 16:53, Roy Badami wrote: On 16/09/10 11:48, MIG wrote: I was a bit surprised to find that combined DLR + NR PAYG prices seem to be the same as for LU only, rather than as for NR only or as for LU + NR. That doesn't seem to be generally the case. The single fare finder prices Island Gardens to Deptford [National Rail] as 1.40 peak 1.30 off-peak, so it seems to be pricing that as NR+LU -- LU only would be 1.30 at all times. However, West India Quay to London Bridge [National Rail] for example does appear to be priced as LU only. *I wonder if it's significant that this journey can also be made by DLR+tube. *I guess it's just priced as if you only use TfL services, regardless of whether you actually use NR or not? I wondered that, but there would normally be alternative fares shown. If you put London Bridge (NR) as the destination, it specifically offers only the LU fare. *If you put London Bridge (LU) as the destination, it offers alternatives. Exiting the NR barrier at London Bridge, having previously touched only to start the journey at a non-interchange DLR station, deducts the LU fare. I think the reason journeys to London Bridge are charged at the TfL rate is because it is possible to complete the journey using entirely TfL-rated services (i.e. using the Thameslink from somewhere like Farringdon). Even though this is not necessarily the most direct route the system might not have any way of knowing which way you went. Hmm. Interesting possibility that I hadn't thought of. Just a historical anomaly affecting London Bridge if so. |
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