77002 wrote:
At 2d (a little
under 0.5p) the price was actually a little on the high side.


2d is 0.83p.

On 18 Dec, 16:13, Anthony Polson wrote:
77002 wrote:
At 2d (a little
under 0.5p) the price was actually a little on the high side.

2d is 0.83p.

Yes, the good old days.

Lew 1 wrote:

All of which mean that the notion that steam has been running on the tube
really isn't incorrect in modern general language.

People think they're being clever when they point this out when in fact
they're being utterly boring.


They are being utterly boring but *precisely correct*, the latter
probably being their sole source of pleasure in life.

It therefore seems unkind to deny them this pleasure.

allantracy wrote:

Few ordinary newspaper-reading people on the Clapham omnibus today,
whether they read some hard-line authoritarian right-wing Murdoch rag or a
slightly liberal middle-of-the-road paper like the Graun,


.....

Latest today, they're running a piece supporting the idea that all
those cookery programs, containing recipes that start take 8 ounces of
butter, should go out after the watershed.

In Guardian land Nigella is Satan, she'e the daughter of (a not half
bad) former Tory chancellor, cooks some f**king gorgeous food (that
involves pleasure) and the greatest sin of all she uses ounces.

Blimey, that lot fails to tick more than a few boxes, on the PC check
list, at the Guardian.

Do you regard the BMJ as a bunch of commies, too?
http://press.psprings.co.uk/bmj/december/chefs.pdf

wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:51:55 -0800 (PST), 77002
wrote:

On 18 Dec, 13:40, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:47:20 -0800 (PST), e27002

Which section was tube track? AFIK Earls Court to Moorgate is all sub-
surface. Moreover, one cannot bring back something which never
existed. The tube lines were electric from their beginning.

Existing ones might have been, The Tower subway was cable operated.

Accepted. And, the cable may have been run thru a stationary steam
engine. The power for the electric lines may have been steam
generated. But, NO tube lines ever had a steam motive power unit
within its consist whilst running in the deep level tunnels.

Not for passenger operation,the Central London Railway had two
Hunslets built to tube gauge for maintenance trains.
Unfortunately no photo seems to be around on the WWW to link to,
In a book I have they look quite smart. Dual fired ,on coal or oil.

I wonder if they ever rescued a passenger train?

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:07:50 -0800 (PST)
allantracy wrote:
As for the Guardian being middle-of-the-road, you have got to be
kidding, they're off the planet 'loony left', right out there with
many a Labour council, such as Brent, Islington or Rotherham, all run
by the sisters.

Not surprising - liberal left politics as a whole is a very female take on
the world. Everyone is nice really given a chance, encouragement not punishment,
everyone is equal even when clearly they're not, turn the other cheek, we
must atone for the sins of our fathers (note - not mothers), etc etc. All
very laudable but all very naive.

But I wouldn't worry , Guardian readership is in freefall so it won't be
around much longer and one can only hope liberal left politics gets buried
with it in the dustbin of history where it belongs.

B2003

Blimey, that lot fails to tick more than a few boxes, on the PC check
list, at the Guardian.

Do you regard the BMJ as a bunch of commies, too?http://press.psprings.co.uk/bmj/december/chefs.pdf

No they're just fascists that would take away all our personal
freedom.

They're all in great need of a 'liberal free democracy' awareness
course to remind them of the kind of nation that Britain is supposed
to be.

All this nanny state crap is about protecting the NHS, that can't
deliver, even though it's funding has been doubled over the last
fifteen years.

Of course, it's an entirely misguided short term fix, five years of a
nation looking after itself, all tucked up in bed by 7:30, and the NHS
wouldn't know what's hit it, once we all started living five years
longer.

Compounded by all the lost nanny state tax revenue on booze and fags.

The BMJ should be very careful what they wish for.

"Recliner" wrote

I wonder whether the first Met
line trains 150 years ago were also GW broad gauge? I assume they were.

Yes. The Met was built as mixed gauge from Paddington (Bishop's Road) at
least to Farringdon and AFAIK to Moorgate, and was initially (Jan - Aug
1863) worked between Bishop's Road and Farringdon by the GWR using broad
gauge stock. The Met fell out with the GWR, who gave 9 days notice that they
would cease to work the line after 10 August 1863, but by then the
connection with the GNR at Kings Cross had been completed, so the Met began
operating the service themselves, using standard gauge stock obtained from
the GNR. It's not clear how much the broad gauge was used after this (GWR
meat trains to Smithfield, perhaps), though when the Widened Lines were
built in 1866, mixed gauge was provided, though it is not known if GWR broad
gauge trains ever used the Widened Lines.

Peter

"Peter Masson" wrote:
"Recliner" wrote

I wonder whether the first Met
line trains 150 years ago were also GW broad gauge? I assume they were.

Yes. The Met was built as mixed gauge from Paddington (Bishop's Road) at
least to Farringdon and AFAIK to Moorgate, and was initially (Jan - Aug
1863) worked between Bishop's Road and Farringdon by the GWR using broad
gauge stock. The Met fell out with the GWR, who gave 9 days notice that
they would cease to work the line after 10 August 1863, but by then the
connection with the GNR at Kings Cross had been completed, so the Met
began operating the service themselves, using standard gauge stock
obtained from the GNR. It's not clear how much the broad gauge was used
after this (GWR meat trains to Smithfield, perhaps), though when the
Widened Lines were built in 1866, mixed gauge was provided, though it is
not known if GWR broad gauge trains ever used the Widened Lines.

Thanks, that's what I thought, though I'd forgotten that the Widened Lines
were also dual gauge initially.

On 18/12/2012 16:45, d wrote:

But I wouldn't worry , Guardian readership is in freefall so it won't be
around much longer and one can only hope liberal left politics gets buried
with it in the dustbin of history where it belongs.

B2003


Perhaps it is time to change the Guardian's name back to "The Manchester
Guardian".
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK