"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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I know I am being very negative here but Grayling hates everything
Khan
stands for. However he holds the power here as CR2 cannot proceed
without
government funding nor can changes to NR services to implement CR2
proceed
without DfT sign off. I am sure there are a thousand other issues
which
also need DfT / govt support. This announcement is actually an
exercise
in power by Grayling as I am sure Khan understands all too well.
However
he has no choice but to do what Grayling wants otherwise he has to
give
up
on CR2 and then he'd be in the firing line - a result Grayling would
no
doubt be delighted with.

whatever the results of this, I doubt very much that Kahn will still be
in
office by the time that CR2 construction is started

Who is 'Kahn'?

Whoever he is, Sadiq Khan probably hopes to be PM

I suspect that he won't make it that far

Well, I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject.

very funny

Three things have to happen:

1) The current Labour party trajectory towards far left domination collapse
in a heap
2) He wins a leadership election contest against some other worthy,
moderate, contenders (and any lefties that get onto the ballot).
3) The Labour party convince enough of the electorate to vote them into
office

I suggest that 3 will be the easiest of these, but I would also suggest that
if he were the leader he will find it harder than some others. He comes
across as an identikit politician, and whatever the Labour spin doctors
think, the electorate don't actually like identikit politicians.

I don't rate his chances on 1 or 2 highly.

But you might want to
read this long profile on him in the New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/07/31/sadiq-khan-takes-on-brexit-and-terror/amp


but he will have to be back on the commons in order to give it a shot

Yes, of course. I'm sure you know that both his predecessors combined
their
roles as MP and mayor for periods.

but not to popular opinion

Boris was also a best-selling author and
very highly paid newspaper columnist while mayor.

what's that got to do with anything?

This isn't about how much time you devote to the job (I very much suspect
being mayor is not a full time job, at least not by the standards of being a
government minster), it's how much of your political loyalty you put in that
direction. And loyalty will be divided combining Mayor with running to be
Labour party leader.

tim

On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:41:19 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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I know I am being very negative here but Grayling hates everything
Khan
stands for. However he holds the power here as CR2 cannot proceed
without
government funding nor can changes to NR services to implement CR2
proceed
without DfT sign off. I am sure there are a thousand other issues
which
also need DfT / govt support. This announcement is actually an
exercise
in power by Grayling as I am sure Khan understands all too well.
However
he has no choice but to do what Grayling wants otherwise he has to
give
up
on CR2 and then he'd be in the firing line - a result Grayling would
no
doubt be delighted with.

whatever the results of this, I doubt very much that Kahn will still be
in
office by the time that CR2 construction is started

Who is 'Kahn'?

Whoever he is, Sadiq Khan probably hopes to be PM

I suspect that he won't make it that far

Well, I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject.

very funny

Three things have to happen:

1) The current Labour party trajectory towards far left domination collapse
in a heap
2) He wins a leadership election contest against some other worthy,
moderate, contenders (and any lefties that get onto the ballot).
3) The Labour party convince enough of the electorate to vote them into
office

I suggest that 3 will be the easiest of these, but I would also suggest that
if he were the leader he will find it harder than some others. He comes
across as an identikit politician, and whatever the Labour spin doctors
think, the electorate don't actually like identikit politicians.

I don't rate his chances on 1 or 2 highly.

I don't think he's planning detailed tactics. He's more of a strategic
thinker, and is establishing a solid track record so as to be ready if
an opportunity presents itself. He's not nakedly ambitious like Boris,
but as you can if you read that article, he's tireless when he has an
objective to achieve.


But you might want to
read this long profile on him in the New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/07/31/sadiq-khan-takes-on-brexit-and-terror/amp


but he will have to be back on the commons in order to give it a shot

Yes, of course. I'm sure you know that both his predecessors combined
their roles as MP and mayor for periods.

but not to popular opinion

Boris was also a best-selling author and
very highly paid newspaper columnist while mayor.

what's that got to do with anything?

It proved that no-one demands that the mayor be full-time.

This isn't about how much time you devote to the job (I very much suspect
being mayor is not a full time job, at least not by the standards of being a
government minster), it's how much of your political loyalty you put in that
direction. And loyalty will be divided combining Mayor with running to be
Labour party leader.

He may take advantage of a convenient by-election in his second term
to get himself parked in the Commons, without actually standing for
leader at the same time. He'll just make sure he's in a good position
to take advantage of an opportunity, should it arise.