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Recliner[_3_] January 1st 18 09:20 PM

The Met to Watford Junction: Deadline Day
 
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being filled:
https://www.londonreconnections.com/2017/the-metropolitan-line-extension-deadline-day/



e27002 aurora[_2_] January 6th 18 12:13 PM

The Met to Watford Junction: Deadline Day
 
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 12:06:56 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 1 January 2018 22:20:40 UTC, Recliner wrote:
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being filled:

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2017/the-metropolitan-line-extension-deadline-day/


AIUI if work has started before PP etc. expires then it can continue.


If you read the report to it's conclusion you will see that the law for
these works is different to PP.

Still it is not looking good for this project. Taking the Met. Into
Watford Junction would provide a very useful interchange. Diverting
the Overground to Rickmansworth would be an interesting option.


Basil Jet[_4_] January 6th 18 12:42 PM

The Met to Watford Junction: Deadline Day
 
On 2018\01\06 13:13, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 12:06:56 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 1 January 2018 22:20:40 UTC, Recliner wrote:
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being filled:

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2017/the-metropolitan-line-extension-deadline-day/

AIUI if work has started before PP etc. expires then it can continue.


If you read the report to it's conclusion you will see that the law for
these works is different to PP.

Still it is not looking good for this project. Taking the Met. Into
Watford Junction would provide a very useful interchange.


For very few people. After all, the Harrow area and the Wembley area
already have services to Watford Junction.

The only point I can see in a Croxley Link would be a diesel version to
allow the entire Chiltern Amersham service to be diverted to Euston, so
that the Chiltern mainline could run more trains into Marylebone. But a
curve from Northwick Park to the "slow" OLE lines at South Kenton would
probably do a similar job much more cheaply.

Paul Corfield January 6th 18 02:13 PM

The Met to Watford Junction: Deadline Day
 
On Monday, 1 January 2018 22:20:39 UTC, Recliner wrote:
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being filled:
https://www.londonreconnections.com/2017/the-metropolitan-line-extension-deadline-day/


Just worth adding that at an Assembly Meeting last week the Commissioner confirmed that the project has not quite died yet. Apparently some of the funding partners (not TfL) are seeking Housing Infrastructure Fund monies to try to fill the funding gap. No word on when the decision is expected but clearly someone is trying to find some extra money in light of the Mayor's refusal to fill the gap.

Whether the Treasury is still supporting the project remains to be seen given there cannot be a business case that properly justifies the project cost of nigh on £350m. If the funding issue is fixed *and* it is given the go ahead then it confirms the govt's willingness to pour a huge sum of cash into a rather marginal constituency.

--
Paul C
via Google

Robin9 January 7th 18 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil Jet[_4_] (Post 164585)
On 2018\01\06 13:13, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 12:06:56 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



"R. Mark Clayton"
wrote in message
...
On Monday, 1 January 2018 22:20:40 UTC, Recliner wrote:
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being filled:

https://www.londonreconnections.com/...-deadline-day/

AIUI if work has started before PP etc. expires then it can continue.


If you read the report to it's conclusion you will see that the law for
these works is different to PP.

Still it is not looking good for this project. Taking the Met. Into
Watford Junction would provide a very useful interchange.


For very few people. After all, the Harrow area and the Wembley area
already have services to Watford Junction.

The only point I can see in a Croxley Link would be a diesel version to
allow the entire Chiltern Amersham service to be diverted to Euston, so
that the Chiltern mainline could run more trains into Marylebone. But a
curve from Northwick Park to the "slow" OLE lines at South Kenton would
probably do a similar job much more cheaply.

More easily said than done

Recliner[_3_] January 7th 18 03:33 PM

The Met to Watford Junction: Deadline Day
 
Robin9 wrote:

'Basil Jet[_4_ Wrote:
;164585']On 2018\01\06 13:13, e27002 aurora wrote:-
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 12:06:56 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:
-


"R. Mark Clayton"
wrote in message
...-
On Monday, 1 January 2018 22:20:40 UTC, Recliner wrote:
An interesting article on the tangled history of this absurdly
expensive
project whose time has come, and probably gone, as its parliamentary
approval is about to lapse, with no sign of the funding gap being
filled:

http://tinyurl.com/y7uzcs53

AIUI if work has started before PP etc. expires then it can continue.-

If you read the report to it's conclusion you will see that the law
for
these works is different to PP.
-
Still it is not looking good for this project. Taking the Met. Into
Watford Junction would provide a very useful interchange.-

For very few people. After all, the Harrow area and the Wembley area
already have services to Watford Junction.

The only point I can see in a Croxley Link would be a diesel version to

allow the entire Chiltern Amersham service to be diverted to Euston, so

that the Chiltern mainline could run more trains into Marylebone. But a

curve from Northwick Park to the "slow" OLE lines at South Kenton would

probably do a similar job much more cheaply.


More easily said than done


Well, Northwick Park is well placed for a new curve to be built, and
perhaps some of the large back gardens of the houses on Windermere Avenue
could be borrowed during the construction. I've no idea how good the B/C
ratio would be, but it's probably doable at reasonable cost.



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