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Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Are they allowed to do that? I suspect it was put up by the "Friends Of Lea Road". |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Basil Jet wrote on 21 May 2018 at 13:53 ...
Are they allowed to do that? I suspect it was put up by the "Friends Of Lea Road". Depends which version of Johnston font. If it's the original Johnston in its digital form, licensed by TfL exclusively to P22 Type Foundry, that's now a commercially available font. If they've used New Johnston or Johnston 100, they have probably violated TfL's copyright. There are also a number of other fonts based on Johnston such as Granby and ITC Johnston which are presumably independent of TfL. I'd need a high-res photo of the sign to decide which font it is. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Basil Jet wrote:
Are they allowed to do that? I suspect it was put up by the "Friends Of Lea Road". I was wandering down the Thames the other day, after a tour of Fullers Brewery, and spotted a blue plaque that really deserves to be in Johnston font: https://binged.it/2GBnWms |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Recliner wrote on 21 May 2018 at 15:47 ...
Basil Jet wrote: Are they allowed to do that? I suspect it was put up by the "Friends Of Lea Road". I was wandering down the Thames the other day, after a tour of Fullers Brewery, and spotted a blue plaque that really deserves to be in Johnston font: https://binged.it/2GBnWms It is indeed in Johnston font, not that you'd know from the awful Bing maps, which also gets the road name wrong. It's Hammersmith Terrace there, not Chiswick Mall. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:25:45 UTC+1, Richard J. wrote:
It is indeed in Johnston font, not that you'd know from the awful Bing maps, which also gets the road name wrong. It's Hammersmith Terrace there, not Chiswick Mall. Bing maps! I did not know there was such a thing. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Richard J. wrote:
Recliner wrote on 21 May 2018 at 15:47 ... I was wandering down the Thames the other day, after a tour of Fullers Brewery, and spotted a blue plaque that really deserves to be in Johnston font: https://binged.it/2GBnWms It is indeed in Johnston font, not that you'd know from the awful Bing maps, which also gets the road name wrong. It's Hammersmith Terrace there, not Chiswick Mall. ISTR there is a marker stone that marks the boundary between Hammersmith and Chiswick, Surprisingly nondescript and a bit overshadowed now. Ahh found a piccy. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2130450 It’s a walk I do a couple of time a year as I have rellies living nearby one of whom does a running / fast walk circuit most days along both banks using Hammersmith and Barnes bridges, hope I have his energy when I’m 85. A good many of the properties along there now belong to Russian oligarchs that have invested the money they have acquired in them and are pricey even by London standards. Surprisingly the Chiswick end used to be quite industrial with the Fullers Brewery being about the last. Thornicrofts the shipbuilders were located there until they moved to Southampton in the 1900’s There used to be healthy communities of houseboats as well but they were priced out about 50 years ago So although a pleasant walk it isn’t quite as interesting to me as it once was. GH |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
On 21 May 2018 18:26:59 GMT, Marland
wrote: Richard J. wrote: Recliner wrote on 21 May 2018 at 15:47 ... I was wandering down the Thames the other day, after a tour of Fullers Brewery, and spotted a blue plaque that really deserves to be in Johnston font: https://binged.it/2GBnWms It is indeed in Johnston font, not that you'd know from the awful Bing maps, which also gets the road name wrong. It's Hammersmith Terrace there, not Chiswick Mall. ISTR there is a marker stone that marks the boundary between Hammersmith and Chiswick, Surprisingly nondescript and a bit overshadowed now. Ahh found a piccy. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2130450 It’s a walk I do a couple of time a year as I have rellies living nearby one of whom does a running / fast walk circuit most days along both banks using Hammersmith and Barnes bridges, hope I have his energy when I’m 85. A good many of the properties along there now belong to Russian oligarchs that have invested the money they have acquired in them and are pricey even by London standards. Surprisingly the Chiswick end used to be quite industrial with the Fullers Brewery being about the last. Thornicrofts the shipbuilders were located there until they moved to Southampton in the 1900’s There used to be healthy communities of houseboats as well but they were priced out about 50 years ago So although a pleasant walk it isn’t quite as interesting to me as it once was. I'm assuming that the oligarchs don't live in the flood-prone low-lying properties close to the river? Judging by these household flood barriers and glass walls, the river gets pretty high on a regular basis: https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72157697108062115 I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
In message , at 12:17:46 on
Tue, 22 May 2018, Recliner remarked: I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. Because in the short term they can't afford anything else (even assuming they are cogniscent of the risks). -- Roland Perry |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:17:46 on Tue, 22 May 2018, Recliner remarked: I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. Because in the short term they can't afford anything else (even assuming they are cogniscent of the risks). You're assuming that those flats are cheap. I rather suspect that they're not. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
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-septe mber.org, at 13:48:03 on Tue, 22 May 2018, Recliner remarked: I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. Because in the short term they can't afford anything else (even assuming they are cogniscent of the risks). You're assuming that those flats are cheap. I rather suspect that they're not. They will be cheaper than anything else the buyers might aspire to. -- Roland Perry |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septe mber.org, at 13:48:03 on Tue, 22 May 2018, Recliner remarked: I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. Because in the short term they can't afford anything else (even assuming they are cogniscent of the risks). You're assuming that those flats are cheap. I rather suspect that they're not. They will be cheaper than anything else the buyers might aspire to. How did 'afford' turn into 'aspire'? Probably nearly everyone lives somewhere cheaper than they'd aspire to, without living underground in an area certain to flood. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
In message
-septem ber.org, at 14:28:37 on Tue, 22 May 2018, Recliner remarked: I'm bemused why people would live in basement flats in a flood-prone area. Because in the short term they can't afford anything else (even assuming they are cogniscent of the risks). You're assuming that those flats are cheap. I rather suspect that they're not. They will be cheaper than anything else the buyers might aspire to. How did 'afford' turn into 'aspire'? Probably nearly everyone lives somewhere cheaper than they'd aspire to, without living underground in an area certain to flood. The latter has more square feet, which is what they aspire to. -- Roland Perry |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
I was able to buy a copy of the font at an open day at the Museum depot some years ago.
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Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Recliner wrote:
On 21 May 2018 18:26:59 GMT, Marland wrote ISTR there is a marker stone that marks the boundary between Hammersmith and Chiswick, A good many of the properties along there now belong to Russian oligarchs I'm assuming that the oligarchs don't live in the flood-prone low-lying properties close to the river? Judging by these household flood barriers and glass walls, the river gets pretty high on a regular basis: https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72157697108062115 The young couple who told us said they were rented out at high rents or in the case of the one they were in they were living there as caretakers but the owner had only visited once in over a year,the. The couple had Eastern European accents. The river floods at high tides frequently, possibly you noticed vegetation in the road that is often left at times of high tidal levels. I don’t know if in the past the basements just got wet and people lived with it, Now a lot of those basements will be living space rather than a coal hole. Surprising now but that bit of Chiswick became a bit of a backwater after the LSWR routes were opened both the existing national rail over Barnes bridge and what is now the District from Richmond to Hammersmith moved focus away from the river as market gardens around Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Court Park were built on, though the Hammersmith and Chiswick which got there from the North London Route got stifled on the way and lost its passenger service early having run a rail motor through cabbage fields only to find that the new house owners that took over preferred the LSWR or trams. https://goo.gl/images/h22yC2 As a backwater the riverside appealed to arty types. One of those basements is a museum to William Morris the 19th century designer of various things who lived in the house above in the 1870’s. https://williammorrissociety.org GH |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Marland wrote:
Recliner wrote: On 21 May 2018 18:26:59 GMT, Marland wrote ISTR there is a marker stone that marks the boundary between Hammersmith and Chiswick, A good many of the properties along there now belong to Russian oligarchs I'm assuming that the oligarchs don't live in the flood-prone low-lying properties close to the river? Judging by these household flood barriers and glass walls, the river gets pretty high on a regular basis: https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72157697108062115 The young couple who told us said they were rented out at high rents or in the case of the one they were in they were living there as caretakers but the owner had only visited once in over a year,the. The couple had Eastern European accents. The river floods at high tides frequently, possibly you noticed vegetation in the road that is often left at times of high tidal levels. The road was damp, though there hadn't been any rain in days, so it must have been from the high tide. I don’t know if in the past the basements just got wet and people lived with it, Now a lot of those basements will be living space rather than a coal hole. Yes, indeed. Surprising now but that bit of Chiswick became a bit of a backwater after the LSWR routes were opened both the existing national rail over Barnes bridge and what is now the District from Richmond to Hammersmith moved focus away from the river as market gardens around Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Court Park were built on, though the Hammersmith and Chiswick which got there from the North London Route got stifled on the way and lost its passenger service early having run a rail motor through cabbage fields only to find that the new house owners that took over preferred the LSWR or trams. https://goo.gl/images/h22yC2 As a backwater the riverside appealed to arty types. One of those basements is a museum to William Morris the 19th century designer of various things who lived in the house above in the 1870’s. https://williammorrissociety.org Thanks, no I didn't know that history. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
"Marland" wrote in message ... Richard J. wrote: Recliner wrote on 21 May 2018 at 15:47 ... I was wandering down the Thames the other day, after a tour of Fullers Brewery, and spotted a blue plaque that really deserves to be in Johnston font: https://binged.it/2GBnWms It is indeed in Johnston font, not that you'd know from the awful Bing maps, which also gets the road name wrong. It's Hammersmith Terrace there, not Chiswick Mall. ISTR there is a marker stone that marks the boundary between Hammersmith and Chiswick, Surprisingly nondescript and a bit overshadowed now. Ahh found a piccy. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2130450 It's a walk I do a couple of time a year as I have rellies living nearby one of whom does a running / fast walk circuit most days along both banks using Hammersmith and Barnes bridges, hope I have his energy when I'm 85. A good many of the properties along there now belong to Russian oligarchs that have invested the money they have acquired in them and are pricey even by London standards. Surprisingly the Chiswick end used to be quite industrial with the Fullers Brewery being about the last. The West Middlesex Waterworks complete with its five chimneys abutted right up the eastern end of Hammersmith Terrace. Traces can be seen in the arched wall to the side of the alley which is now mostly used by bikes. The entrance to the Old Ship used to be on a continuation of this alley as there was no river frontage at that time. Then farther on towards Hammersmith, past Kelmscott House and the Doves and over the high bridge over the Creek there were the lead mills. I believe these survived long enough to suffer damage during the blitz and were subsequently the site of Furnival Gardens; which until the Great West Road extension was built, stretched all the way up to Hammersmith Town Hall. Its Father Thames heads now almost totally ignored, situated as they now are only yards away from the motorway. michael adams .... |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
"Marland" wrote in message ... As a backwater the riverside appealed to arty types. One of those basements is a museum to William Morris the 19th century designer of various things who lived in the house above in the 1870's. https://williammorrissociety.org There are still artists studios in St Peters Wharf. Just around the corner from Hammersmith Terrace. They hold garage sale type exhibitions every year or so. Artists more arty types will have heard of such as Victor Passmore, Eric Ravilious, and Eric Gill (the dog shagger) have lived or worked in the locality. Among many others. As well as Johnston, Emery Walker who with J.Cobdon Sanderson set up the Doves Press and Bindery in Doves passage lived in Hammersmith Terrace. Unfortunately they fell out and in a hissy fit Cobden Sanderson threw all the matrices for the Doves type into the Thames from Hammersmith Bridge. Presumably having passed the lead mills on the way. michael adams .... |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
Surprisingly the Chiswick end used to be quite industrial with the Fullers Brewery being about the last. The West Middlesex Waterworks complete with its five chimneys abutted right up the eastern end of Hammersmith Terrace. Traces can be seen in the arched wall to the side of the alley which is now mostly used by bikes. The entrance to the Old Ship used to be on a continuation of this alley as there was no river frontage at that time. Then farther on towards Hammersmith, past Kelmscott House and the Doves and over the high bridge over the Creek , So others can place it ,it may be worth mentioning the Creek was where Stamford Brook met the Thames. You can still see an outfall but the last open vestiges of the Brook and Hammersmith Creek were covered over In the 40’s. For most the the only reminder it ever it existed is in the name of the Station between Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Park on the District line One of London’s lost rivers. http://www.londonslostrivers.com/stamford-brook.html GH |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
On 23 May 2018 19:39:58 GMT, Marland
wrote: Surprisingly the Chiswick end used to be quite industrial with the Fullers Brewery being about the last. The West Middlesex Waterworks complete with its five chimneys abutted right up the eastern end of Hammersmith Terrace. Traces can be seen in the arched wall to the side of the alley which is now mostly used by bikes. The entrance to the Old Ship used to be on a continuation of this alley as there was no river frontage at that time. Then farther on towards Hammersmith, past Kelmscott House and the Doves and over the high bridge over the Creek , So others can place it ,it may be worth mentioning the Creek was where Stamford Brook met the Thames. You can still see an outfall but the last open vestiges of the Brook and Hammersmith Creek were covered over In the 40’s. For most the the only reminder it ever it existed is in the name of the Station between Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Park on the District line One of London’s lost rivers. http://www.londonslostrivers.com/stamford-brook.html Stamford Bridge (or strictly the grassy bit in Walham Green nearby) might have a more widespread group of people aware of its location. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
On 2018\05\23 21:06, Charles Ellson wrote:
On 23 May 2018 19:39:58 GMT, Marland wrote: So others can place it ,it may be worth mentioning the Creek was where Stamford Brook met the Thames. You can still see an outfall but the last open vestiges of the Brook and Hammersmith Creek were covered over In the 40’s. For most the the only reminder it ever it existed is in the name of the Station between Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Park on the District line One of London’s lost rivers. http://www.londonslostrivers.com/stamford-brook.html Stamford Bridge (or strictly the grassy bit in Walham Green nearby) might have a more widespread group of people aware of its location. Stamford Bridge is over Counter's Creek, and is nothing to do with Stamford Brook, or Stamford Hill for that matter. |
Johnston font welcome sign at Gainsborough Lea Road
On Wed, 23 May 2018 21:21:32 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote: On 2018\05\23 21:06, Charles Ellson wrote: On 23 May 2018 19:39:58 GMT, Marland wrote: So others can place it ,it may be worth mentioning the Creek was where Stamford Brook met the Thames. You can still see an outfall but the last open vestiges of the Brook and Hammersmith Creek were covered over In the 40’s. For most the the only reminder it ever it existed is in the name of the Station between Turnham Green and Ravenscourt Park on the District line One of London’s lost rivers. http://www.londonslostrivers.com/stamford-brook.html Stamford Bridge (or strictly the grassy bit in Walham Green nearby) might have a more widespread group of people aware of its location. Stamford Bridge is over Counter's Creek, /Billingswell Ditch/Pool's Creek/Kensington Canal and is nothing to do with Stamford Brook, apart from each coming down opposite sides of Wormwood Scrubs. https://stephenliddell.files.wordpre...int-copy_3.jpg or Stamford Hill for that matter. Bugger! Yes, three different sandy fords. |
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