On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Though it depends which branch of the District Line tim will be moving
to. If he's coming from Fulham Broadway, Earls' Court is his only
practical option

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:27:35 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:21:03 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
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Farrindgon is one stop from KX. By the time you've taken crossrail from
Heathrow, changed at Farringdon and arrive at KX the alternate piccadilly
line train might just have made it to Hammersmith. But more likely will be
stuck at Acton Town with a signal failure.

Heathrow Central to Kings Cross is 55 mins on the Tube, with no changes and
12 tph. Allow 2 mins waiting time, so 57 mins overall.

On Crossrail, it will be 31 mins to Farringdon, 6tph. Allowing 5 mins
waiting time, that's 36 mins. Then allow 10 mins to change to Thameslink,
and say 3 mins journey time to Kings Cross, so it's about 49 mins total. Is
it worth the hassle of changing trains with luggage, and up to triple the
fare, to save just eight minutes?

Why on earth would you get thameslink to KX? Get the H&S/Circle line, there's

a train every 2 or 3 minutes.



The change at Farringdon is likely to be much easier to Thameslink. Using

You'll be able to share the passageway diagrams you've obviously getting
this from then won't you.

LU will make the change longer, and the trains are hardly more frequent
than TL is planned to be before Crossrail is running from Heathrow to
Farringdon.

I work near blackfriars and can see the lines into the station. I can assure
you the tube is more frequent than thameslink whatever the timetable may say.

So, under your suggestion, make that 51 minutes via Crossrail: a saving of
just 6 minutes, for triple the fare, much more walking, and an unnecessary
change of train. That's about as good as most of your suggestions.

Unlike you I wouldn't take 10 minutes to walk from one platform to another.
Perhaps upgrade your walking stick. As for 55 mins from heathrow to KX on
the piccadilly line, thats a bloody joke. I used to work near heathrow and
did that run every day. If it took less than an hour then someone probably got
a medal at earls court.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose
most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

because that bit of the district doesn't go to Barons Court

(the clue is below)

tim




What would be the point of staying on the train to Padd to change onto
Lizzy, even if I was on a train that was going to Padd in the first place?

Exactly

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On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose
most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service
commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court,
change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Currently, when I travel via Victoria mainline, I find Barons Court a nicer
option than Hammersmith


Though it depends which branch of the District Line tim will be moving to.
If he's coming from Fulham Broadway, Earls' Court is his only practical
option

Yep (but it's not Fulham Broadway)

tim

Neil Robertson wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:27:35 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Neil Robertson wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:21:03 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Neil Robertson wrote:
Farrindgon is one stop from KX. By the time you've taken crossrail from
Heathrow, changed at Farringdon and arrive at KX the alternate piccadilly
line train might just have made it to Hammersmith. But more likely will be
stuck at Acton Town with a signal failure.

Heathrow Central to Kings Cross is 55 mins on the Tube, with no changes and
12 tph. Allow 2 mins waiting time, so 57 mins overall.

On Crossrail, it will be 31 mins to Farringdon, 6tph. Allowing 5 mins
waiting time, that's 36 mins. Then allow 10 mins to change to Thameslink,
and say 3 mins journey time to Kings Cross, so it's about 49 mins total. Is
it worth the hassle of changing trains with luggage, and up to triple the
fare, to save just eight minutes?

Why on earth would you get thameslink to KX? Get the H&S/Circle line, there's

a train every 2 or 3 minutes.



The change at Farringdon is likely to be much easier to Thameslink. Using

You'll be able to share the passageway diagrams you've obviously getting
this from then won't you.

You appear not to have actually seen Farringdon station. But that doesn't
stop you sounding off ignorantly, as usual.


LU will make the change longer, and the trains are hardly more frequent
than TL is planned to be before Crossrail is running from Heathrow to
Farringdon.

I work near blackfriars and can see the lines into the station. I can assure
you the tube is more frequent than thameslink whatever the timetable may say.

And is the 2020 timetable projected through your window?

Not so long ago, you flatly refused to believe that the track you're
looking at was the Thameslink msin line. Now you claim to know the future
timetable. Ignorance, piled upon ignorance.


So, under your suggestion, make that 51 minutes via Crossrail: a saving of
just 6 minutes, for triple the fare, much more walking, and an unnecessary
change of train. That's about as good as most of your suggestions.

Unlike you I wouldn't take 10 minutes to walk from one platform to another.
Perhaps upgrade your walking stick.

As you know nothing about the station layout, or timetable, we can put the
usual zero credence on your claim.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Baron's Court is slightly better.


Though it depends which branch of the District Line tim will be moving
to. If he's coming from Fulham Broadway, Earls' Court is his only
practical option

True.

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose
most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

because that bit of the district doesn't go to Barons Court

(the clue is below)

Agreed, if you're on the Wimbledon branch, Earl's Court is the best place
to change (but not ideal with luggage).

On 31/08/2018 16:01, tim... wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will
lose most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business,
too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service
commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court,
change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Currently, when I travel via Victoria mainline, I find Barons Court a
nicer option than Hammersmith

Certainly less frenetic most of the day.



Though it depends which branch of the District Line tim will be moving
to. If he's coming from Fulham Broadway, Earls' Court is his only
practical option

Yep (but it's not Fulham Broadway)


:-)


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On 31/08/2018 16:10, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Baron's Court is slightly better.

My only reason is that a couple of times I have overtaken the District
Line train between there and Hammersmith and caught an earlier train to
Richmond than I otherwise would. For some reason the tube trains seem
to take a minute or so less between the two.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/08/2018 16:10, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/08/2018 14:01, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:48:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
news Robin9 wrote:

There was a busy Piccadilly Line service to Hounslow long before the
extension to Heathrow was built. Obviously the Piccadilly will lose most
of its Heathrow custom but Hounslow East and Boston Manor will still
generate considerable business.

Actually, I think it'll keep quite a lot of its Heathrow business, too:
for
many people (including me), it will remain the most convenient way of
getting to the airport, even after the full Crossrail service commences.

yep me too

Once ensconced in my new abode it will be District to Earls Court, change
onto the Picc.

Why not use the much easier cross-platform change at Barons Court?

Or even Hammersmith.

Baron's Court is slightly better.

My only reason is that a couple of times I have overtaken the District
Line train between there and Hammersmith and caught an earlier train to
Richmond than I otherwise would. For some reason the tube trains seem
to take a minute or so less between the two.


We were talking about changing *from* the District to the westbound
Piccadilly, so that's another reason to change at Barons Court.