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Apart from anything else, Elephant and Castle is just so much more fun as a
name. And it is geographically accurate - that's the name of the junction.
As good as Oxford Circus.


There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. TCR station is all the way at one end, so it's not even
the station you'd use if you had no idea where a house number was on
TCR - you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St. I suggest that it
becomes:

St Giles' Circus.

Or if that's a little obscure, leave people in no doubt with:

Soho Square.

(I mean there is precedent - Leicester Sq station exits onto the
Charing X Rd.)

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"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message
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I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.
For example, if I had to rename the stations on the
Bakerloo line, I'd have this instead (with a little
help from my A-Z):

Elephant and Castle ---- Walworth North



How about

Penge West ---------- Windsor and Eaton Riverside

Anerley --------- Penge North

Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

Beckenham Hill ---------- Bellingham sur la Mearde

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames



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On 24-Apr-2004, John Rowland wrote in
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Kilburn Park ----------- Kilburn Central


Except that Kilburn Park station is not in the centre of Kilburn, but
Kilburn High Road station is.

Stonebridge Park ------- OK (no idea what else to call it)


Tokyngton. Stonebridge Park is an insignificant road, closer to

Harlesden
Station.


How about calling all the stations north of Maida Vale: "**** hole", apart
from Stonebridge Park, of course, which would be "**** hole Central".

Mind you, Stonebridge Park boasts the famous "Ace Cafe" where,
bizarrely, criminals, Hells Angels and police constables eat breakfast
together most mornings in perfect harmony.

Bless em.

As for Harrow and Wealdstone, that should be called "Scotland".



Aye

But what of Cockfosters ?


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enge West ---------- Windsor and Eaton Riverside

Anerley --------- Penge North

Crystal Palace ------- Eiffel

Beckenham Hill ---------- Bellingham sur la Mearde

Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia


Yep -- putting Paddington Green cop shop on Edgware Roadistan
was a very happy coincidence.

Anyone ever had a pint in the Green Man and lived?


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On 25-Apr-2004, Yanart Amin Ari wrote in %VDic.179$ME2.34@newsfe1-win:

ogether most mornings in perfect harmony.

Bless em.

As for Harrow and Wealdstone, that should be called "Scotland".



Aye

But what of Cockfosters ?



Yeah well, they're all up there -- innit?


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"James" writes:
There's one name that really ought to go, however:

Tottenham Court Road.

The problem is that both Goodge St and Warren St also are on Tottenham
Court Road. ... if you had no idea where a house number was on TCR
- you'd be far better off starting at Goodge St.


In fact, when Goodge Street station opened in 1907 as part of the CCE&HR
(now part of the Northern Line), it was *called* Tottenham Court Road.

The trouble is that the present Tottenham Court Road station had
already opened in 1900 with the CLR (now Central Line) -- under the
same name. Back then, since it was at the place where the line
*crossed* the named street, that name made sense and was unambiguous.
When the CCE&HR opened, they built an adjacent station (later combined
with the CLR station to form the present layout) and similarly named
it after the street crossing the line there, Oxford Street.

But this situation was just too confusing -- having two TCR stations
might have been all right, but having one of them adjacent to a
differently named station on the same line as the other was too much.
So the following year the CCE&HR conceded to the senior line's precedent
and switched their two stations to the present naming.

In other words, James should put the blame the for this one on all
those people who declined to invest in HStP&CCR shares (as the CCE&HR
was originally known) back in 1894. If they had, construction on the
line (later called the CCE&HR) might have begun immediately and the
CLR might not have completed its TCR station first.
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Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames


Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians and Huguenots yet, I
think.

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"John of Aix" wrote in message
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"Richard J." a écrit dans le message de news:
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E. Zackatackali wrote:
I wish London Underground stations had names that properly
described the area that they were located in, instead of
using obscure street names or some other undescriptive name.


So why do you want to confuse everyone by changing the names?


To flummox al-Qaeda, any fule no that.


Great idea, return to WW2 measures: remove all the signs, starting with The
Tube.
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Brian Watson wrote:

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Edgware Road ---------- Westy Arabia

Hackney Wick --------- Lesser Istanbul

Palmers Green --------- Palmers Greek

Barons Court ---------- New South Zeeland

Chiswick ----------- Pretoria on Thames


I wasn't aware of that one.

Ok, if we're getting all ethnic..

I believe the north London station has already (on at least one sign) been
renamed Golda's Green by the skilful application of a bit of spray paint?

I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians


Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?

and Huguenots yet, I think.

WTF are Huguenots?
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"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
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Brian Watson wrote:


I expect someone will dive in and claim this is all very non-pc, but I

quite
like the idea of recognising London's multinational population in its
station names.

Nothing been suggested to acknowledge the Australians


Does anyone not already know where to find Australians in London?


South Kensington would seem to be a suitable candidate for such renaming.

and Huguenots yet, I think.

WTF are Huguenots?


A persecuted minority in France during most of the period from the early
1500s until 1789, the French Protestants were given the name Huguenots in
the time of the Reformation.

Although they were forbidden to leave France, hundreds of thousands fled.
They carried French arts, manufactures, and culture to England, Germany, the
Netherlands, and the British colonies of North America.

HTH.

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