What news on the Goblin 710s?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:34:26 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:18:52 on Wed, 16 Jan 2019, Neil J Robertson remarked: Unlike cars trains are build to order. It would have been fairly simple for Bombadier to build some more 378s Not if you've thrown away the jigs, and/or there are compliance issues with a new build of an old design. And, of course, the 378s do not share a platform with the S stock. Neil is wrong, as usual. Same traction and control system which is the important part. The bodyshells are all built to order anyway. I notice you never point our when you're wrong which is pretty often. Still think ordering the 710s was a great idea? |
What news on the Goblin 710s?
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The issue is not if it was right to order the 710s. It's whether
TfL should have allowed for a delay preventing their being in use by December, 2019. |
What news on the Goblin 710s?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 10:22:07 +0000
Robin9 wrote: The issue is not if it was right to order the 710s. It's whether TfL should have allowed for a delay preventing their being in use by December, 2019. Well they've never been blessed with foresight and they've painted themselves into a tight corner. If they can't find some spare 378s then it looks like it'll be a bustitute until the 710s turn up - whenever that will be. If the delays are as stated purely down to software issues then I'd venture these issues are pretty intractable since they should have had an off the shelf solution ready to go, its not exactly bleeding edge tech. |
What news on the Goblin 710s?
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 10:22:07 +0000 Robin9 wrote: The issue is not if it was right to order the 710s. It's whether TfL should have allowed for a delay preventing their being in use by December, 2019. Well they've never been blessed with foresight and they've painted themselves into a tight corner. If they can't find some spare 378s then it looks like it'll be a bustitute until the 710s turn up - whenever that will be. If the delays are as stated purely down to software issues then I'd venture these issues are pretty intractable since they should have had an off the shelf solution ready to go, its not exactly bleeding edge tech. And which software, exactly, have you reviewed and characterised as 'not exactly bleeding edge'? |
What news on the Goblin 710s?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 17:08:57 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 10:22:07 +0000 Robin9 wrote: The issue is not if it was right to order the 710s. It's whether TfL should have allowed for a delay preventing their being in use by December, 2019. Well they've never been blessed with foresight and they've painted themselves into a tight corner. If they can't find some spare 378s then it looks like it'll be a bustitute until the 710s turn up - whenever that will be. If the delays are as stated purely down to software issues then I'd venture these issues are pretty intractable since they should have had an off the shelf solution ready to go, its not exactly bleeding edge tech. And which software, exactly, have you reviewed and characterised as 'not exactly bleeding edge'? Train software. Its not stealth radar or a spacecraft control system they're trying to get working. It moves in 1 dimension on a track and moving block signalling and IGBT train control systems are a solved problem and should be off the shelf packages from their suppliers. If Bombadier have been dumb enough to write everything from scratch then more fool them and someone should get their P45. |
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