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When the software meets the hardware
On 28 Jan 2019 11:06:05 GMT
Marland wrote: wrote: “Perhaps install more toilets in stations and get rid of them on trains altogether. We're a small island, there are no journeys really long enough to make them worthwhile except maybe the overnight sleeper to scotland”. It was after that you asked “ How did they cope in the past?” Now you trying to claim that you were talking solely about commuter trains again in attempt to bolster your weak proposal. Won’t wash Pal, others can follow a thread that shows your arguments descending into impracticality Not you though since you obviously missed the bit where I spoke about thamelinks. Or did you think that was a long distance service? You asked the question “How did they cope in the past” when it was quite clear the thread had moved onto the problems your silly proposal to remove all train toilets except sleepers would create. That you spoke about about Thameslink as well doesn’t camouflage that no matter how much you try and convince that you only meant services like theirs all along because you realised how stupid your initiall extreme stance was. There are few services in this country long enough to justify train toilets IMO. Sure, some run long distance but most are not the sort of services people stay on end to end, WCML and ECML excepted. You can resort to Boltar bluster as much as you like but what you wrote is out there. It is. Why not try reading it. |
When the software meets the hardware
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wrote: Where are you going where you need to travel for an hour on B roads? Northern Scotland? Destinations included the Lake District, Mid-Wales, North York Moors, and East Anglia (although in East Anglia I suspect those roads were officially A roads). Nowadays I don't own a car so... For that matter the few motorway services I have the misfortune to encounter are rarely even as clean as railway toilets. Its probably a toss up with station toilets vs service station toilets for cleanliness. But most *train* toilets are usually fairly disgusting in the few times I've seen in. With the exception of Sidcup station which is basic but kept nicely clean and Kings Cross where I'm always surprised by the cleanlyness I'd probably put the train and station toilets the other way around in the parts of the SE I travel in regularly. -- Jonathan Amery. For the wonders that astound us, ##### For the truths that still confound us, #######__o Most of all that love has found us, #######'/ Thanks be to God. - F. Pratt Green |
When the software meets the hardware
On 28/01/2019 12:33, Jonathan Amery wrote:
and Kings Cross where I'm always surprised by the cleanlyness Maybe because no-one uses them because the ones at St Pancras are free? -- Basil Jet - Current favourite song... What by Bruce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtJEAud9vao |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:55:38 -0000 (UTC) Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: wrote: A portable vacuum unit to empty them. How else? The walkways along the stabling sidings aren’t sufficient for a mobile vacuum unit (does such a thing even exist?) let alone a wheeled tank Have you never seen the lorry that empties a septic tank? Will it fit along the platform, down a flight of stairs, across the 2 feet wide boarded walkway, and along the ballast down the 4 foot gap between trains? suitable for 10 CET tanks-worth of effluent. I doubt there are suitable facilities to discharge said mobile vacuum unit either. Presumably it would use the same facilities as the other methods. The fixed equipment at depots have a larger-than-portakabin-sized building which handles the effluent, and a proper feed into the sewage system. Neither available at the stabling sidings mentioned. So make the open inward. Why does it have to slide? How do disabled people cope in non train toilets? Sliding door allows the toilet cubicle to fit in the space available in the train. They managed to install toilets on le shuttle with normal doors. People seem to manage to use them. The toilets on Le Shuttle aren’t a great example to compare things to. They’re disgusting. Clarkson was right to **** in a bottle. 10 hours? Where the hell is it going from and to? Edinburgh to Penzance. It forms an early PM peak commuter train from Bristol. I doubt many people went end to end. I never said they did. I guess a fair number of people make 4-5 hour journeys though. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
When the software meets the hardware
On 28 Jan 2019 12:33:11 +0000 (GMT)
Jonathan Amery wrote: In article , wrote: Where are you going where you need to travel for an hour on B roads? Northern Scotland? Destinations included the Lake District, Mid-Wales, North York Moors, and East Anglia (although in East Anglia I suspect those roads were officially A roads). You must have driven fairly leisurely then. Few places in England at least are far from A roads these days. |
When the software meets the hardware
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:08:00 +0000
Arthur Figgis wrote: On 28/01/2019 12:10, wrote: On 28 Jan 2019 10:19:40 +0000 (GMT) Jonathan Amery wrote: You must go to some fairly boring places for holiday. Nothing boring about Europe. Frankfurt is a thing in Europe. (thinking of the /M version... I've only ever passed through /O, which for all I know might be like Barcelona on a bank holiday Friday when someone is offering free beer) I've been to the business Frankfurt once. It was enough for one lifetime tbh. Clean, efficient, friendly (for germany) but totally and utterly boring as hell. |
When the software meets the hardware
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:33:11 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 10:19:27 +0000 (UTC), wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:51:26 +0000 Charles Ellson wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:42:37 +0000 (UTC), wrote: On 27 Jan 2019 14:23:46 GMT Marland wrote: wrote: Then there is the large percentage of the population who are female whose different plumbing ,menstrual cycles and smaller bladder capacity when pregnant often means they need toilet facilities more often than men. How did they cope in the past? Stayed at home in the absence of suitable facilities or supplies? It still happens now - Google for "period poverty". Google tampons and sanitary towels. https://plan-uk.org/media-centre/1-i...o-afford-sanit ary-wear-survey-finds But I bet their parents can still afford the Sky subscription and fags. |
When the software meets the hardware
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:56:13 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:55:38 -0000 (UTC) Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote: wrote: A portable vacuum unit to empty them. How else? The walkways along the stabling sidings aren’t sufficient for a mobile vacuum unit (does such a thing even exist?) let alone a wheeled tank Have you never seen the lorry that empties a septic tank? Will it fit along the platform, down a flight of stairs, across the 2 feet wide boarded walkway, and along the ballast down the 4 foot gap between trains? They could try using a long hose. Honestly, if the railways can't think of a way to empty a septic tank then they're really up **** creak. Pun intended. The fixed equipment at depots have a larger-than-portakabin-sized building which handles the effluent, and a proper feed into the sewage system. Neither available at the stabling sidings mentioned. Then they should be. They managed to install toilets on le shuttle with normal doors. People seem to manage to use them. The toilets on Le Shuttle aren’t a great example to compare things to. They’re disgusting. Clarkson was right to **** in a bottle. TBH I don't see the purpose of them either. The journey is only 45 mins. Edinburgh to Penzance. It forms an early PM peak commuter train from Bristol. I doubt many people went end to end. I never said they did. I guess a fair number of people make 4-5 hour journeys though. Maybe once in a blue moon. |
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