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On 20/07/2019 14:01, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:01:02 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Or are you suggesting Khan should have chosen different contractors ?



How long has Khan been mayor?

When did Crossrail start?

When were the contractors appointed?

¬*It's pretty clear from this latest report that the DfT is still very
much
involved with the governance of the Crossrail project:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205


So the answers are

2016

2009

Before 2009

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?


I thought this red herring had died.

When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?


Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though as
you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even more confused.


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In message , at 14:43:44 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 20/07/2019 14:01, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:01:02 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Or are you suggesting Khan should have chosen different contractors ?



How long has Khan been mayor?

When did Crossrail start?

When were the contractors appointed?

*It's pretty clear from this latest report that the DfT is still
very much
involved with the governance of the Crossrail project:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205


So the answers are

2016

2009

Before 2009

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?


I thought this red herring had died.
When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?


Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though as
you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even more
confused.


It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been snipped
by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former mayors] should
be involved in choosing any contractors.

Why have you resurrected this zombie?

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On 20/07/2019 15:02, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:43:44 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 20/07/2019 14:01, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:01:02 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Or are you suggesting Khan should have chosen different
contractors ?



How long has Khan been mayor?

When did Crossrail start?

When were the contractors appointed?

¬*It's pretty clear from this latest report that the DfT is still
very¬* much
involved with the governance of the Crossrail project:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205


So the answers are

2016

2009

Before 2009

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?

¬*I thought this red herring had died.
¬*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?


Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though as
you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even more
confused.


It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been snipped
by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former mayors] should
be involved in choosing any contractors.

Why have you resurrected this zombie?


Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.

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In message , at 15:06:28 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
Or are you suggesting Khan should have chosen different
contractors ?



How long has Khan been mayor?

When did Crossrail start?

When were the contractors appointed?

*It's pretty clear from this latest report that the DfT is still
very* much
involved with the governance of the Crossrail project:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205


So the answers are

2016

2009

Before 2009

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?

*I thought this red herring had died.
*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?

Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though as
you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even more
confused.

It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should be involved in choosing any contractors.
Why have you resurrected this zombie?


Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.


Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of which
are over a week ago.
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In message , at 12:32:35 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

No-one suggested politicians should choose Crossrail[1] contractors.


Yes they did, hence my questions


Who, and when.
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On 21/07/2019 13:47, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:06:28 on Sat, 20 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
Or are you suggesting Khan should have chosen different
contractors ?



How long has Khan been mayor?

When did Crossrail start?

When were the contractors appointed?

¬*It's pretty clear from this latest report that the DfT is still
very¬* much
involved with the governance of the Crossrail project:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205


So the answers are

2016

2009

Before 2009

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?
¬*
¬*I thought this red herring had died.
¬*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?

Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though as
you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even more
confused.
¬*It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped¬* by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should¬* be involved in choosing any contractors.
¬*Why have you resurrected this zombie?


Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.


Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of which
are over a week ago.


Pleas yourself, you have again magnificently missed the point just so
you can start an arguement with yourself.

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In message , at 18:54:23 on Sun, 21 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?


******* Boris was mayor when it started but Livingstone was mayor in
******* the actual run up, when, presumably, the contractors were
******* appointed.

*I thought this red herring had died.
*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?



Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though
as you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even
more confused.
*It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped* by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should* be involved in choosing any contractors.
*Why have you resurrected this zombie?

Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.

Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of
which are over a week ago.


Pleas yourself, you have again magnificently missed the point just so
you can start an arguement with yourself.


As ever, you'll have to explain what exactly the point is, as far as you
perceive it.

To possibly shorten the agony, no-one has suggested Khan, or any
previous Mayor[1], should be appointing contractors.

[1] I've restored the bit which got lost, for clarity.

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On 22/07/2019 17:11, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:54:23 on Sun, 21 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?


******* Boris was mayor when it started but Livingstone¬* was mayor in
******* the actual run up, when, presumably, the contractors were
******* appointed.

¬*I thought this red herring had died.
¬*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?



Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted, though
as¬* you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt, be even
more¬* confused.
¬*It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped¬* by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should¬* be involved in choosing any contractors.
¬*Why have you resurrected this zombie?

Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.
¬*Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of
which¬* are over a week ago.


Pleas yourself, you have again magnificently missed the point just so
you can start an arguement with yourself.


As ever, you'll have to explain what exactly the point is, as far as you
perceive it.

To possibly shorten the agony, no-one has suggested Khan, or any
previous Mayor[1], should be appointing contractors.

[1] I've restored the bit which got lost, for clarity.


No you haven't. You have carefully snipped the original statement and my
follow-up questions. Also Recliner's link to an article that lead to the
appropriate answers.

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In message , at 19:51:25 on Mon, 22 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 22/07/2019 17:11, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:54:23 on Sun, 21 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?

******* Boris was mayor when it started but Livingstone* was mayor
in
******* the actual run up, when, presumably, the contractors were
******* appointed.

*I thought this red herring had died.
*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?



Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted,
though as* you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt,
be even more* confused.
*It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped* by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should* be involved in choosing any contractors.
*Why have you resurrected this zombie?

Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.
*Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of
which* are over a week ago.

Pleas yourself, you have again magnificently missed the point just
so you can start an arguement with yourself.

As ever, you'll have to explain what exactly the point is, as far as
you perceive it.
To possibly shorten the agony, no-one has suggested Khan, or any
previous Mayor[1], should be appointing contractors.
[1] I've restored the bit which got lost, for clarity.


No you haven't. You have carefully snipped the original statement


Date and author please, so we can find it easily.

and my follow-up questions. Also Recliner's link to an article that
lead to the appropriate answers.


We can do that later.
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On 23/07/2019 12:01, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 19:51:25 on Mon, 22 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 22/07/2019 17:11, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:54:23 on Sun, 21 Jul
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:

Tell me how Khan could have appointed different contractors?
¬******** Boris was mayor when it started but Livingstone¬* was mayor in
******* the actual run up, when, presumably, the contractors were
******* appointed.

¬*I thought this red herring had died.
¬*When did I suggest Khan should be appointing contractors?


Lost yourself again? Look at the first line you've quoted,
though¬* as¬* you've snipped the attributions you will, no doubt,
be even¬* more¬* confused.
¬*It was asked by michael adams[1], and my reply (which has been
snipped¬* by along the way) was to deny I'd claimed he [or former
mayors] should¬* be involved in choosing any contractors.
¬*Why have you resurrected this zombie?

Look at the dates, I haven't, you have by coming in late.
¬*Which dates? I see you commenting on a thread the relevant bits of
which¬* are over a week ago.

Pleas yourself, you have again magnificently missed the point just
so¬* you can start an arguement with yourself.
¬*As ever, you'll have to explain what exactly the point is, as far as
you¬* perceive it.
¬*To possibly shorten the agony, no-one has suggested Khan, or any
previous Mayor[1], should be appointing contractors.
¬*[1] I've restored the bit which got lost, for clarity.


No you haven't. You have carefully snipped the original statement


Date and author please, so we can find it easily.


Already pointed you at it once, not going to repeat myself.


and my follow-up questions. Also Recliner's link to an article that
lead to the appropriate answers.


We can do that later.


We've done it while you were working up your current argument.

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