Many of the hotels advertise a hotel transfer service, but this turns
out to be a minicab in many cases.

a pre-arranged Taxi it almost always is (not all countries have the
concept of mini-cabs)

the world over

tim

Is this a problem for you.? Or are there more than four people that need
to go to the airport at once...

On 02/10/2019 16:39, Roland Perry wrote:

so if you have a long term job at LHR moving house seems the most
appropriate solution

What are these long term jobs of which you speak? And moving house to be
near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't a walk in the park.

If as seems to be the case a lot of people have to rent privately if
working in the London area, then a move is not out of the question as
most leases are for six months at a time. And it's a move to make travel
to work easier rather than have multiple changes on PT.

In message , at 13:29:20 on Thu, 3 Oct
2019, Sammi Gray-Jones remarked:


Many of the hotels advertise a hotel transfer service, but this
turns out to be a minicab in many cases.
a pre-arranged Taxi it almost always is (not all countries have the
concept of mini-cabs)
the world over
tim

Is this a problem for you.? Or are there more than four people that
need to go to the airport at once...

I have two problems with it:

1) The fare is likely to be much higher than a minibus
2) Experience shows that airport shuttle buses are much more reliable
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 13:35:51 on Thu, 3 Oct
2019, Sammi Gray-Jones remarked:
On 02/10/2019 16:39, Roland Perry wrote:

so if you have a long term job at LHR moving house seems the most
appropriate solution
What are these long term jobs of which you speak? And moving house
to be near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't a walk in the
park.

If as seems to be the case a lot of people have to rent privately if
working in the London area, then a move is not out of the question as
most leases are for six months at a time. And it's a move to make
travel to work easier rather than have multiple changes on PT.

It's still uprooting the whole family.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 19:14:28 on Wed, 2 Oct 2019,
tim... remarked:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 10:34:39 on Wed, 2 Oct 2019,
tim... remarked:

I live north of the river, and my rail journeys to and from
Heathrow
are always on the Piccadilly line. The Picc serves far more
stations in
London than Crossrail will.

It's a rather tedious way to get to and from work at Heathrow, if
you
live north of Kings Cross.

Is there a better way using PT? Obviously, people who don't live
near a
Piccadilly line station might change to the line at, say, Finsbury
Park.

As the Irishman asked for directions famously said "I wouldn't start
from there".

so if you have a long term job at LHR moving house seems the most
appropriate solution

What are these long term jobs of which you speak?

Working full time at the airport

If there is any "low" skilled job that has security, this has to be it.

There's still plenty of opportunity to be working for an employer who goes
broke or decide not to have a base at HR any more, or be replaced by a
machine (baggage handling a prime example).

And moving house to be near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't a
walk in the park.

If you already live in a different part of London it is.

Moving further than a sensible commute for the children to get to their
original school is difficult.

so they move school

thousands of children do it every year

it's not impossible


Hounslow is not a prime London property location

For a reason. And hence why would people want to move there?

Because if they are in London and can only afford "Hounslow" prices, they
will already be living in an undesirable area of London

But if you can afford more there are are desirable areas that are commutable
as well

I am making the point that if you already live in London and you move, you
can make a like for like move at your price point and still be in a area
with the same amount of desirableness (or un-desirableness).

You don't have to find an extra 300K because the starting point is 300K more
than where you have come from

tim

"Sammi Gray-Jones" wrote in message
...


Many of the hotels advertise a hotel transfer service, but this turns
out to be a minicab in many cases.

a pre-arranged Taxi it almost always is (not all countries have the
concept of mini-cabs)

the world over

tim

Is this a problem for you.?

not really

I just dislike hotels that advertise "airport shuttle available" when what
they mean is "if you ask the desk we will ring up a taxi for you, which you
will pay for". That's hardly a service that merits shouting about - it's a
bog standard service that every hotel above a minimum standard offers.

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
news
In message , at 13:35:51 on Thu, 3 Oct 2019,
Sammi Gray-Jones remarked:
On 02/10/2019 16:39, Roland Perry wrote:

so if you have a long term job at LHR moving house seems the most
appropriate solution
What are these long term jobs of which you speak? And moving house to
be near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't a walk in the park.

If as seems to be the case a lot of people have to rent privately if
working in the London area, then a move is not out of the question as most
leases are for six months at a time. And it's a move to make travel to
work easier rather than have multiple changes on PT.

It's still uprooting the whole family.

but you make that choice when you take the job

suffer the commute or move

if you're not prepared to do either, don't take the job

tim


--
Roland Perry

On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:56:27AM +0000, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:43:48 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 04:39:40PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
And moving house to be near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't
a walk in the park.
It's something that vast numbers of people did in the past, and that a
lot of people still do. I've done it myself.
Not quite so easy if you have a spouse who also works and kids who go to school.
Are they supposed to just up sticks because you've had enough of your commute?

I repeat, it's something that lots of people have done, and lots of
people do do, so is clearly not completely unreasonable. A family is all
about compromise though and I don't pretend, unlike some people on the
internet, to have The Answer For Everyone.

--
David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic

If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you're reading it in English, thank Chaucer.

In message , at 10:47:38
on Fri, 4 Oct 2019, David Cantrell remarked:
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:56:27AM +0000, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:43:48 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 04:39:40PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
And moving house to be near a job, especially one like Heathrow, isn't
a walk in the park.
It's something that vast numbers of people did in the past, and that a
lot of people still do. I've done it myself.
Not quite so easy if you have a spouse who also works and kids who go
to school.
Are they supposed to just up sticks because you've had enough of your
commute?

I repeat, it's something that lots of people have done, and lots of
people do do, so is clearly not completely unreasonable.

First you have to finds a school with places, and the good ones are
likely to be full. Even if you are turning up for the first year of
Secondary because the allocations will have been done 9mths earlier.

The children will lose their friends, places on sports teams, have a new
set of teachers, strange classmates, quite likely a different syllabus
with some subjects not available, and in the run-up to public exams this
can be very seriously disrupting.

Picking things up part-way through an academic year just makes it worse.

Buying new school uniforms is just a drop in the ocean.

A family is all about compromise though and I don't pretend, unlike
some people on the internet, to have The Answer For Everyone.

A lot of people move to be near a school they want for their children.
That's a compromise where parents likely have a longer commute.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 14:00:30 on Thu, 3 Oct 2019,
tim... remarked:

And moving house to be near a job, especially one like Heathrow,
isn't a walk in the park.

If you already live in a different part of London it is.

Moving further than a sensible commute for the children to get to
their original school is difficult.

so they move school

thousands of children do it every year

it's not impossible

See my reply to David.

Hounslow is not a prime London property location

For a reason. And hence why would people want to move there?

Because if they are in London and can only afford "Hounslow" prices,
they will already be living in an undesirable area of London

Not true. Price reflects convenience as well as posh-ness.

But if you can afford more there are are desirable areas that are
commutable as well

By bus, remember (unless you are looking at only the Heathrow Connect/
Piccadilly Line corridor).

I am making the point that if you already live in London and you move,
you can make a like for like move at your price point and still be in a
area with the same amount of desirableness (or un-desirableness).

You don't have to find an extra 300K because the starting point is 300K
more than where you have come from

People relying on public transport are usually a bit below that price
bracket. Renting, probably (with mobility in public housing severely
restricted).
--
Roland Perry