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Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim |
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tim... wrote:
(nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail |
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In article , Recliner
writes Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. So the Circle was running Hammersmith to Aldgate? Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail Hmm; that implies separate work east of Aldgate East. I wonder if the Circle was beefed up to compensate. -- Clive D.W. Feather |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? nope I don't travel often enough (except by bus) to make such things worthwhile The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail well yes I know now I was just commenting upon how inconvenient such works are, in the absence of a bespoke replacement "use local busses" simply doesn't work for some journeys (and that's assuming you have access to the details of which local bus, and it stop, you should use) tim |
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"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote in message ... In article , Recliner writes Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. So the Circle was running Hammersmith to Aldgate? Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail Hmm; that implies separate work east of Aldgate East. I wonder if the Circle was beefed up to compensate. I also wondered if the Wimbleware line had increased frequency to compensate for the loss of the "city" services But I think not as all of the services from Richmond and Ealing were being diverted that way (at least to High St Ken) so there wouldn't be sufficient turn around capacity (I caught a service before 9am on Sunday and it was definitely only every 10 minutes then) tim |
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tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? nope I don't travel often enough (except by bus) to make such things worthwhile Why not? It costs nothing. The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail well yes I know now You could have known days in advance. I was just commenting upon how inconvenient such works are, in the absence of a bespoke replacement "use local busses" simply doesn't work for some journeys (and that's assuming you have access to the details of which local bus, and it stop, you should use) So use a journey planner, such as TfL's, or Citymapper. These problems were solved long ago. |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? nope I don't travel often enough (except by bus) to make such things worthwhile Why not? It costs nothing. it litters my in box The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail well yes I know now You could have known days in advance. I could have know by checking the Journey planner I was just commenting upon how inconvenient such works are, in the absence of a bespoke replacement "use local busses" simply doesn't work for some journeys (and that's assuming you have access to the details of which local bus, and it stop, you should use) So use a journey planner, such as TfL's, or Citymapper. These problems were solved long ago. If I'd know beforehand, yes tim |
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tim... wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? nope I don't travel often enough (except by bus) to make such things worthwhile Why not? It costs nothing. it litters my in box The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail well yes I know now You could have known days in advance. I could have know by checking the Journey planner I was just commenting upon how inconvenient such works are, in the absence of a bespoke replacement "use local busses" simply doesn't work for some journeys (and that's assuming you have access to the details of which local bus, and it stop, you should use) So use a journey planner, such as TfL's, or Citymapper. These problems were solved long ago. If I'd know beforehand, yes There's a free way of knowing in advance, which you reject, then complain that you don't know in advance! Words fail me. |
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"Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Recliner" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled Don't you get the weekly TfL newsletter? nope I don't travel often enough (except by bus) to make such things worthwhile Why not? It costs nothing. it litters my in box The latest one says this: Circle line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Edgware Road and Aldgate via Victoria. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube or local bus routes. District line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Earl's Court and East Ham. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or replacement bus services. Rail replacement buses will run from Liverpool Street/Canning Town to Barking. Hammersmith & City line On Saturday 4 and Sunday 5 January, there will be no service between Hammersmith and Barking. This is due to track replacement work. Use alternative Tube, local or rail replacement bus services. Rail well yes I know now You could have known days in advance. I could have know by checking the Journey planner I was just commenting upon how inconvenient such works are, in the absence of a bespoke replacement "use local busses" simply doesn't work for some journeys (and that's assuming you have access to the details of which local bus, and it stop, you should use) So use a journey planner, such as TfL's, or Citymapper. These problems were solved long ago. If I'd know beforehand, yes There's a free way of knowing in advance, which you reject, then complain that you don't know in advance! Words fail me. I've already accepted my mistake I repeat, I was just pointing out how awkward the alternatives are for people who are unprepared many less knowledgeable than me about how London busses work On one bus yesterday, someone asked if they had to touch out when they got off and a few minutes later, someone came down the stairs and spent some seconds fumbling in his bag for something, only just getting through the doors as they closed - and what was he fumbling for - his card so that he could touch out as he got off! tim |
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On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote:
(nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were there must be the golden age that transcends all others. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png GH |
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On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote: On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were there must be the golden age that transcends all others. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png GH Not complete circles then? I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Circle Line. Huh! PA |
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In article ,
MissRiaElaine wrote: I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. But it never went in a circle. It was shaped more like a gourd with a spout. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle...Line_(old).svg -- Regards, John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly |
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On 06/01/2020 18:57, Peter Able wrote:
On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed around london before the deepÂ* tube lines really got established were not complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were there must be the golden age that transcends all others. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png GH Not complete circles then?Â* I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Circle Line.Â* Huh! Go the other way round? -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On 06/01/2020 19:49, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/01/2020 18:57, Peter Able wrote: Not complete circles then?Â* I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Circle Line.Â* Huh! Go the other way round? It doesn't go the other way round, that's the point. You'd end up in Hammersmith. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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In article ,
MissRiaElaine wrote: I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Go the other way round? It doesn't go the other way round, that's the point. You'd end up in Hammersmith. Hmmn. If you were to get on an eastbound Circle line train at Baker Street, where do you think it would go? -- Regards, John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly |
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On 06/01/2020 20:35, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 19:49, Graeme Wall wrote: On 06/01/2020 18:57, Peter Able wrote: Not complete circles then?Â* I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Circle Line.Â* Huh! Go the other way round? It doesn't go the other way round, that's the point. You'd end up in Hammersmith. From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? That still runs, but there's been a much-needed increase in the frequency of the trains between Hammersmith and Paddington. The reshaping of the Circle line was needed for that. Or even the Metropolitan come to that. What about it? Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? It was. Why do you always assume that today's London has the same transport demands as it did in the 1960s? |
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On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote:
From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable stairs, would be via Green Park. |
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Peter Able wrote:
On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were there must be the golden age that transcends all others. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png GH Not complete circles then? I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. Circle Line. Huh! Wouldn't it be quicker, and involve fewer unavoidable stairs, to take the Jubilee and Piccadilly lines, changing (step-free) at Green Park. Both those lines are much more frequent than the Circle line, so the time would be more predictable. |
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On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable stairs, would be via Green Park. Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person, particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable stairs, would be via Green Park. Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person, particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground. I don't think there's a step-free LU route from Baker St to South Ken (there obviously ought to be). But the route via Green Park has the fewest steps. For example, at South Ken, you have a lot more steps to get from the Circle Line platforms to the booking office than you do from the Piccadilly platforms (there were no steps in the 1960s, with the old lifts). |
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"Peter Able" wrote in message o.uk... On 06/01/2020 18:40, Marland wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 05/01/2020 22:34, tim... wrote: (nor the central Met/District) Who'd have thought that this would make it so hard to get where you want to go in Z1 You have to find the alternative bus route/stop and the alternative journey take "forever" Of course it's my fault really for not putting my journey into the planner before I travelled tim I'll never understand how they can still call it the Circle line when it doesn't go in a circle any more. What was wrong with the Hammersmith & City..? Or even the Metropolitan come to that. Why do people have to mess with things that aren't broken..? We know from your posts that you have a hankering for things that you perceive as being better in the past but if you went back far enough would you be moaning the the other routes that were called circles that existed around london before the deep tube lines really got established were not complete circles or is it a case of the era you remember because you were there must be the golden age that transcends all others. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ian_London.png GH Not complete circles then? I guess that things are so much better now. I regularly escort a disabled wife from Baker Street to South Kensington, she is so grateful that nowadays she has to get out, get on and sometimes use the steep footbridge at Edgware Road. I'm surprised, that give its other interchange possibilities, that ER doesn't have a lift to use to traverse between the platforms tim |
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On 07/01/2020 01:59, Recliner wrote:
MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable stairs, would be via Green Park. Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person, particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground. I don't think there's a step-free LU route from Baker St to South Ken (there obviously ought to be). But the route via Green Park has the fewest steps. For example, at South Ken, you have a lot more steps to get from the Circle Line platforms to the booking office than you do from the Piccadilly platforms (there were no steps in the 1960s, with the old lifts). True enough. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:11:47 -0000, "tim..."
wrote: it litters my in box Set up a filter. Put it in its own folder. -- jhk |
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On 06/01/2020 23:33, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: Â*From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. But if you are disabled it might be preferable to take a longer journey and not have to struggle over the footbridge at Edgware Road as the OP complained. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:33, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: Â*From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. But if you are disabled it might be preferable to take a longer journey and not have to struggle over the footbridge at Edgware Road as the OP complained. True, but either way, there are lots of stairs at both Baker St and South Ken if you use the Circle Line. You save time and avoid most of the stairs by going the shortest way, via Green Park. |
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On 07/01/2020 01:22, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:51, Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 06/01/2020 21:44, Graeme Wall wrote: Â* From Baker street you can still get to South Ken without changing because it does go the other way round. Yes, but it's the long way round. It's a lot quicker to go anti-clockwise between those two places than the other way. Or at least it was. The quickest way, and probably the one with the least non-avoidable stairs, would be via Green Park. Yes, but I think the OP wanted to avoid changing altogether. I know from experience the difficulties involved in assisting a disabled person, particularly one in a wheelchair, to travel on the Underground. Good for you, Ria. Two thoughtful posts. Yes, I want to reduce the changes - and also to use standing-only services, pedestrian pathways, escalators and stairways as little as possible. We're talking about a passenger with very little sense of balance. That wipes out escalators as I must stand beside my wife on an escalator. Imagine how popular that would make me. Coming into London from a fair distance - to a morning clinic - the clockwise option would force peak fares, too ! Raising these sorts of issues certainly sorts out the type-before-thinkers from the think-before-typingers ! PA |
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