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On 04/06/2020 18:43, Charles Ellson wrote:
It is reciprocal, the FP holder gets whatever applies to the locals
holding an ENCTS card so if e.g. someone from Greater London visits
Merseyside then they can also (relative to the above) use the bus up
to 06.30.


But if an FP holder visits Manchester, they can't use their pass after
11pm, although the locals can. I assume this restriction also applies to
any ENCTS card from outside Manchester.

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"Ross Kavanagh" wrote in message
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On 04/06/2020 18:43, Charles Ellson wrote:
It is reciprocal, the FP holder gets whatever applies to the locals
holding an ENCTS card so if e.g. someone from Greater London visits
Merseyside then they can also (relative to the above) use the bus up
to 06.30.


But if an FP holder visits Manchester, they can't use their pass after
11pm, although the locals can.


yup

TfL are too generous to National Card holders ;-)

tim





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On 05/06/2020 11:04, Ross Kavanagh wrote:
On 04/06/2020 18:43, Charles Ellson wrote:
It is reciprocal, the FP holder gets whatever applies to the locals
holding an ENCTS card so if e.g. someone from Greater London visits
Merseyside then they can also (relative to the above) use the bus up
to 06.30.


But if an FP holder visits Manchester, they can't use their pass after
11pm, although the locals can. I assume this restriction also applies to
any ENCTS card from outside Manchester.


The Senior ENCTS passes conditions are that they are valid on buses
(only) Monday to Friday 09:30 to 23:00, all day at weekends or on Bank
Holidays.

But within their own areas, some authorities (e.g. Greater Manchester,
Merseytravel, West Yorkshire Metro) can extend the validity hours of
their local passes , e.g. to Midnight (or "end of service")

The authorities can (if they wish) provide funds to make passes valid on
trains, trams, etc., but they are free to charge users for such
additional provisions.

In West Yorkshire Metro area, holders of ENCTS Senior passes do not get
free rail travel, but are allowed to purchase half-price rail tickets
for use outside peak hours (for travel within the local area only. )

The South Yorkshire area holders do not get the bus extension to
midnight, but like West Yorkshire, they can get half price off-peak
local rail travel. Bus passes can also be used on trams.

Numerous counties choose not to fund use of senior passes for rail
travel.
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:16:53 +0100, "tim..."
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Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings.


I didn't realise that National card holders could travel before 9:30 anyway


They can on payment of a reduced fare.
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:16:53 +0100, "tim..."
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Passengers with a 60+ Oyster card, Older Person's Freedom Pass, or
English National Concessionary Scheme pass will not be able to use
these cards before 09:00 on weekday mornings.


I didn't realise that National card holders could travel before 9:30
anyway


They can on payment of a reduced fare.


In London!

ITYF that's there no mechanism for that, with busses only accepting
contactless forms of "payment" and National Concession Cards not having an
"attached" wallet (if indeed they are even contactless)

HTH

tim



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On 05/06/2020 10:51, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 22:22:13 +0100, MissRiaElaine


I cannot properly relate to someone whose face I cannot clearly see*.
This is no joke, nor am I making it up. If I can't see your face, it
makes me extremely uneasy.

Is it also an invitation to shoplift if the perpetrator cannot be
identified?


I wonder what the figures are for attempted shop thefts since all this
started. Robbers have worn face coverings since time immemorial. Now
everyone can have a go..!



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Ria in Aberdeen

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