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Anyone tell me anything about the stretch of line which links the District
with the East London Line? Is it entirely in tunnel and double-tracked? How
long is it? Where does it branch off from the District and where does it
join the East London? Has its use always been restricted to one train in one
direction at a time because of tight clearance? Has anyone on the group
travelled it over it? And where else on LU are there similar non-passenger
stretches to allow for stock transfers etc.?
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"Sharon & Gordon Thomson" wrote in message ...
Anyone tell me anything about the stretch of line which links the District
with the East London Line? Is it entirely in tunnel and double-tracked? How
long is it? Where does it branch off from the District and where does it
join the East London? Has its use always been restricted to one train in one
direction at a time because of tight clearance? Has anyone on the group
travelled it over it? And where else on LU are there similar non-passenger
stretches to allow for stock transfers etc.?


0.46km long, runs between Whitechapel Junction (a little south of the
ELL station) to St Mary's Junction (a little west of the District
Whitechapel station).

Other transfer lines at:
Kings Cross (Picadilly - Northern)
Baker St (Bakerloo - Jubilee, once passenger-carrying when the
Stanmore branch was Bakerloo)
Finsbury Park (Picadilly - Victoria)
and, once upon a time, Finsbury Park (GN&C - Northern at Highgate).

PhilD

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Sharon & Gordon Thomson wrote:
Anyone tell me anything about the stretch of line which links the
District with the East London Line? Is it entirely in tunnel and
double-tracked? How long is it? Where does it branch off from the
District and where does it join the East London?


This is St Mary's Curve, which leaves the District, in a southerly
direction, by a facing junction, when travelling EB, between the old St
Mary's Station and Whitechapel.

Have a look at this very good site
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/ro...20diagrams.htm

Has its use always been restricted to one train in one direction at a time
because of
tight clearance? Has anyone on the group travelled it over it?


And where else on LU are there similar non-passenger stretches to allow
for stock transfers etc.?


King's Cross loop between Picc & Northern.
Baker St, between Bakerloo and Jubilee.
Finsbury Park, Vic- Pic.


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Thanks for the gen. - very helpful.
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And where else on LU are there similar non-passenger
stretches to allow for stock transfers etc.?


CULG details these: http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/

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Has its use always been restricted to one train in one
direction at a time because of tight clearance?


No. This restriction appears to date from approximately the time of the East
London Line Closure. I can't remember if it was just before, during or just
after.


Has anyone on the group
travelled it over it?


Yes; last year's East London Explorer railtour, operated by Cravens Heritage
Trains, ran over it in both directions. I have also seen material which
suggest that football specials from Surrey Quays have taken passengers over
it; I've no idea what (if) that ceased happening.


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Also remember the "Met Link" at Ruislip. This is from Ruislip Siding on the
Met into Ruislip Central Line depot - about the most well used link by
Engineering Trains.

There is also the link at Ealing Broadway, seldom used, but Plat 7 at Ealing
Broadway still has Central Line ATP test coils fitted and maintained for
trains crossing to the Central.

BS


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"Sharon & Gordon Thomson" wrote in

message ...
Anyone tell me anything about the stretch of line which links the

District
with the East London Line? Is it entirely in tunnel and double-tracked?

How
long is it? Where does it branch off from the District and where does

it
join the East London? Has its use always been restricted to one train in

one
direction at a time because of tight clearance? Has anyone on the group
travelled it over it? And where else on LU are there similar

non-passenger
stretches to allow for stock transfers etc.?


0.46km long, runs between Whitechapel Junction (a little south of the
ELL station) to St Mary's Junction (a little west of the District
Whitechapel station).

Other transfer lines at:
Kings Cross (Picadilly - Northern)
Baker St (Bakerloo - Jubilee, once passenger-carrying when the
Stanmore branch was Bakerloo)
Finsbury Park (Picadilly - Victoria)
and, once upon a time, Finsbury Park (GN&C - Northern at Highgate).

PhilD

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Wasn't there a connection from just north of Drayton Park up to the GN main
line, and thence to the Northern at Highgate/Finchley, which was used for
stock transfers up till the late 50's when the BR freight connection was
closed?

From then until the transfer of the GN&C to BR in the 70's, how was LT stock
on the Moorgate line moved for major overhauls?


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Finsbury Park (Picadilly - Victoria)


And which AFAIK is the only place on the deep level tube lines where

trains
from different lines run side by side underground and can have a "race"
albeit for only a short distance before the tunnels diverge again.

and, once upon a time, Finsbury Park (GN&C - Northern at Highgate).


That was a foot interchange , it wasn't a physical link between the actual
lines. That was at east finchley.

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The restriction presumably arises from the introduction of 'A' stock on the
East London line.

This has a somewhat wider loading gauge than normal sub-surface stock, and
is not normally operated east of Aldgate.

"David Splett" wrote in message
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"Sharon & Gordon Thomson" wrote in
message ...
Has its use always been restricted to one train in one
direction at a time because of tight clearance?


No. This restriction appears to date from approximately the time of the

East
London Line Closure. I can't remember if it was just before, during or

just
after.


Has anyone on the group
travelled it over it?


Yes; last year's East London Explorer railtour, operated by Cravens

Heritage
Trains, ran over it in both directions. I have also seen material which
suggest that football specials from Surrey Quays have taken passengers

over
it; I've no idea what (if) that ceased happening.






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