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Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank


The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train arrives it
has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already has passengers on
boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a labelled CX train at West
Finchley, and carries through to Kennington.

Has happened 3 times in the last 10 days or so at about the same time. Any
ideas why ?

Could it be to try to stop people boarding at T&W and WP, and let WF's
passengers get a seat ?


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Zac wrote:
Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank


The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley, and carries through to Kennington.

Has happened 3 times in the last 10 days or so at about the same
time. Any ideas why ?

Could it be to try to stop people boarding at T&W and WP, and let WF's
passengers get a seat ?


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might simply
be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?


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Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank

The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley...


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might simply
be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?


Do the train describers on the platforms and the destination sign on the
train receive information from the same source, then? I would have thought
they'd be independent, but I guess if the train signs are electronic, that
no longer needs to be the case.
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Mark Brader, Toronto "It is almost always wrong to strive for
gilt by association." --Martin Ambuhl
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Mark Brader wrote:
Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank

The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley...


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might
simply be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?


Do the train describers on the platforms and the destination sign on
the train receive information from the same source, then? I would
have thought they'd be independent, but I guess if the train signs
are electronic, that no longer needs to be the case.


No. On board destination indicators, including the in-carriage displays, and
the voice announcements, are set by the driver. These are completely
separate from platform indications. I have normally found the driver's
knowledge to be more accurate than that displayed on platforms.
I cannot understand why a passenger train would display "Not in Service" and
then revert to a normal destination.

Lawrence Myers





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wrote:

Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank

The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley...


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might
simply be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?


Do the train describers on the platforms and the destination sign on the
train receive information from the same source, then? I would have
thought
they'd be independent, but I guess if the train signs are electronic,
that
no longer needs to be the case.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "It is almost always wrong to strive for
gilt by association." --Martin Ambuhl

see:

http://www.romilepa.pwp.blueyonder.c...tbk/index.html

for info on the Northern Line Positive Train Identification system
(also Track Circuit Interrupters and Position Detectors)

Roger
(my reader sometimes loses mail/newsgroup messages
- if you think you should have had a reply/comment,
please e-mail me again. Ta!)


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Zac wrote:
Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank


The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley, and carries through to Kennington.

Has happened 3 times in the last 10 days or so at about the same
time. Any ideas why ?

Could it be to try to stop people boarding at T&W and WP, and let WF's
passengers get a seat ?


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might simply
be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?


Brent Cross has been showing incorrect information for a few weeks now aswell.

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"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Zac wrote:
Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank


The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley, and carries through to Kennington.

Has happened 3 times in the last 10 days or so at about the same
time. Any ideas why ?

Could it be to try to stop people boarding at T&W and WP, and let WF's
passengers get a seat ?


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might

simply
be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?

Mr Brimstone

Ok, I'm very sorry, may be it is a fault which the technicians have not been
able to fix.
I was only offering an idea up for discussuion/thoughts for the newsgroup.

It did actually occur that it may be a fault, but am I not able to offer any
sort of ideas myself ?


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"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Zac wrote:
Several times in the last week (about 0810), the indicator boards at
Totteridge and Whetstone have shown :

1) Morden via Bank
2) Kennington via Charing Cross
3) Morden via Bank


The CX train then changes to "not in service", when this train
arrives it has "not in service" displayed on the front, but already
has passengers on boards, and lets on at T&W. It then changes to a
labelled CX train at West Finchley, and carries through to
Kennington.

Has happened 3 times in the last 10 days or so at about the same
time. Any ideas why ?

Could it be to try to stop people boarding at T&W and WP, and let
WF's passengers get a seat ?


Why do you assume it's deliberate? Does it not occur to you it might
simply be a fault that the technicians haven't been able to fix yet?

Mr Brimstone

Ok, I'm very sorry, may be it is a fault which the technicians have
not been able to fix.
I was only offering an idea up for discussuion/thoughts for the
newsgroup.

It did actually occur that it may be a fault, but am I not able to
offer any sort of ideas myself ?


The tone of your posting suggested that this was a deliberate feature, hence
my question. I was merely seeking clarification, is that not allowed?




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