Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

--
Paul C

But still no definite news on the 13 and no announcement of orders for the
refurb Routemasters.
So saying a MD of one of the London bus companies did state that the 159
would be the last Routemaster route

Paul D

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

--
Paul C


I wonder, do we know yet how many of them there will be? I'm thinking of the
38 in particular.

I'm assuming they'll take the opportunity to cut the frequency, as they did
with the 73.

xx j

"Paul Dredge" wrote in message ...
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

--
Paul C

But still no definite news on the 13 and no announcement of orders for the
refurb Routemasters.
So saying a MD of one of the London bus companies did state that the 159
would be the last Routemaster route

Paul D

I heard a wicked roumer that Soverign are kicking up a big fuss about
their contract to run Marshall RMs till 2007 being terminated....

Cheers Phil

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

What are the timetables for the 13, 14, 19 and 22 then?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:33 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

Just to share some news. It has been announced on a Yahoo group today
that Arriva have ordered Mercedes Citaro artics to convert the 38 from
October and Volvo / Alexander double deckers (as used on the 68 and 176)
to convert the 159 from November of this year. No specific dates as
yet.

It looks therefore as if the 159 will be the last RM route based on the
above but there is a long time between now and then. Get out and about
with your cameras as this is your last chance to get a "wintry" scene
with a working RM in it.

What are the timetables for the 13, 14, 19 and 22 then?

19 goes OPO on the 2nd April so all the last day specials will be on 1
April. Get your pictures and rides in now as it is rumoured the RMs
will start to be replaced by new deckers before the formal conversion
date.

14 and 22 go on 22nd July 2005. No one knows what buses have been
ordered but this is the date given to staff who will lose their jobs.

Nothing yet on the 13 although there are endless rumours as to how it
might be converted to OPO.

HTH
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 14 Mar 2005:

19 goes OPO on the 2nd April so all the last day specials will be on 1
April. Get your pictures and rides in now as it is rumoured the RMs
will start to be replaced by new deckers before the formal conversion
date.

They already have - not entirely, but you get the odd one stabled at
Brixton Garage overnight, and I have seen a couple of non-RM-19s running
empty to Battersea Bridge from there.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:50:52 +0000, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 14 Mar 2005:

19 goes OPO on the 2nd April so all the last day specials will be on 1
April. Get your pictures and rides in now as it is rumoured the RMs
will start to be replaced by new deckers before the formal conversion
date.

They already have - not entirely, but you get the odd one stabled at
Brixton Garage overnight, and I have seen a couple of non-RM-19s running
empty to Battersea Bridge from there.

But Battersea garage is an outstation of Brixton so you will see 19s at
Brixton. Also later at night some buses are OPO vehicles as they run
onto the N19 night bus service. I've not seen any reports at all of a
new OPO bus even delivered for the 19 never mind actually used on one. I
would expect things will start to happen within the next week or so if
they are going to do so before the conversion.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

snip

So which one is likely to be converted last? The 13?

Having never taken the opportunity to ride an RM I may need to do so
relatively soon.

On 15 Mar 2005 08:57:40 -0800, "TheOneKEA" wrote:

snip

So which one is likely to be converted last? The 13?

No probably not - there are lots of theories about using surplus low
floor buses to convert the 13 sooner rather than later.

The 159 now looks as if it will be the last route to go in November. The
38 will go in October.

Having never taken the opportunity to ride an RM I may need to do so
relatively soon.

Well enjoy the spring or early summer sunshine in a month or so's time
and make a day of it. The 14 and 22 out to Putney make a nice run while
you'll see lots of life (of varying types) on the 13, 38 and 159.

One of my most memorable bus rides last year was from Walthamstow to Kew
Gardens using 3 routemaster routes for the main leg - 73 from Tottenham
to TCR, then a number 8 across the centre to Green Park and then a 9 to
Hammersmith. There were "normal" buses for the other legs but it took
about 2 hours and I stepped from one bus to the next with no waiting
time. A lovely way to see lots of London but sadly no longer possible
by Routemaster.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!