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Hi all,

Various websites (ie CULG and those which copy it!) tell us that the
off-peak service pattern on the District Line is like this:

Richmond - Upminster: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Upminster: 6 tph (only to Barking on Saturday)
Ealing Broadway - Tower Hill: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Edgware Road: 6 tph
Kensington Olympia - High Street Kensington: 4 tph

What's the pattern in the peaks?

Also, why do the Ealing trains terminate at Tower Hill, rather than
carrying on to Upminster? Is it lack of demand east of Tower Hill,
capacity constraints, or something else?

Thanks,
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"Tom Anderson" wrote:


Hi all,

Various websites (ie CULG and those which copy it!) tell us that the
off-peak service pattern on the District Line is like this:

Richmond - Upminster: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Upminster: 6 tph (only to Barking on Saturday)
Ealing Broadway - Tower Hill: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Edgware Road: 6 tph
Kensington Olympia - High Street Kensington: 4 tph

What's the pattern in the peaks?


1. The Wimbledon branch collapses entirely.
2. Tower Hill trains stop short at Mansion House - but the driver is only
told after leaving Blackfriars.
3. Everything takes 10 minutes to get between Tower Hill and Whitechapel,
held at signals whilst H&C line trains faff around
4. Long queues build up on the eastbound at Barking, as LU insist upon
emptying trains in the through road, then reversing them via the sidings,
rather than reversing in the often empty bay platform.

And the service pattern eastbound from central London is (as per the visual
displays):

Upminster 1 min
Upminster 2 mins
Upminster 3 mins
Circle Line 6 mins
Tower Hill 8 mins
Barking 10 mins
Circle Line 12 mins
Upminster 14 mins (but probably turned short at Dagenham East)
Upminster 16 mins (one that really goes all the way)

Chris





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Hi all,

Various websites (ie CULG and those which copy it!) tell us that the
off-peak service pattern on the District Line is like this:

Richmond - Upminster: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Upminster: 6 tph (only to Barking on Saturday)
Ealing Broadway - Tower Hill: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Edgware Road: 6 tph
Kensington Olympia - High Street Kensington: 4 tph

What's the pattern in the peaks?

Also, why do the Ealing trains terminate at Tower Hill, rather than
carrying on to Upminster? Is it lack of demand east of Tower Hill,
capacity constraints, or something else?


In the peaks each service increases to 7-8 tph except for the Olympia
shuttle. For some reason in the peaks it is the Wimbledon trains that
terminate short at Tower Hill/Barking/Dagenham East while all the Ealing
Broadway trains go to Upminster.

Terminating some trains at Tower Hill reduces the number of conflicting
movements over the two flat junctions in the Aldgate area and a train every
5 minutes (+ some H&C trains to Barking) seems sufficient off-peak.

Peter Smyth


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The Hot & Cold reverse in the Bay, if the District use it then it causes
delays through to upminster, either the District or the H & C have to
reverse in the sidings, as there are more roads to reverse on.

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"Tom Anderson" wrote:



Hi all,

Various websites (ie CULG and those which copy it!) tell us that the
off-peak service pattern on the District Line is like this:

Richmond - Upminster: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Upminster: 6 tph (only to Barking on Saturday)
Ealing Broadway - Tower Hill: 6 tph
Wimbledon - Edgware Road: 6 tph
Kensington Olympia - High Street Kensington: 4 tph

What's the pattern in the peaks?



1. The Wimbledon branch collapses entirely.
2. Tower Hill trains stop short at Mansion House - but the driver is only
told after leaving Blackfriars.
3. Everything takes 10 minutes to get between Tower Hill and Whitechapel,
held at signals whilst H&C line trains faff around
4. Long queues build up on the eastbound at Barking, as LU insist upon
emptying trains in the through road, then reversing them via the sidings,
rather than reversing in the often empty bay platform.

And the service pattern eastbound from central London is (as per the visual
displays):

Upminster 1 min
Upminster 2 mins
Upminster 3 mins
Circle Line 6 mins
Tower Hill 8 mins
Barking 10 mins
Circle Line 12 mins
Upminster 14 mins (but probably turned short at Dagenham East)
Upminster 16 mins (one that really goes all the way)

Chris





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Tom Anderson writes
Also, why do the Ealing trains terminate at Tower Hill, rather than
carrying on to Upminster? Is it lack of demand east of Tower Hill,
capacity constraints, or something else?


Lack of demand for such a heavy service. It gives room to fit the H&C
trains in as well at Aldgate East. And, finally, it reduces the number
of trains required to provide the full service.

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On Tue, 10 May 2005, Chris Read wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote:

What's the pattern in the peaks?


1. The Wimbledon branch collapses entirely.
2. Tower Hill trains stop short at Mansion House - but the driver is only
told after leaving Blackfriars.
3. Everything takes 10 minutes to get between Tower Hill and Whitechapel,
held at signals whilst H&C line trains faff around
4. Long queues build up on the eastbound at Barking, as LU insist upon
emptying trains in the through road, then reversing them via the sidings,
rather than reversing in the often empty bay platform.


Okay, thanks.

Thanks to Peter and Clive, too.

tom

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