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Default Withdrawl of Bus Route 705 (Paddington - Liverpool Street via Waterloo)


Barry Salter wrote:
Hi gang,

As you may know, London bus route 705 (Paddington - Liverpool Street

via
Waterloo) was withdrawn over the weekend (last trips ran on Friday

20th
May).

The latest issue of Newsrail Express (Number 289) contains a table
giving ATOC's suggested alternative routes.

Here's the list:

Paddington to Victoria: 36 or 436 Direct
Paddington to Waterloo: 436 then 211
Paddington to London Bridge: 23 then 17
Paddington to Fenchurch Street: 205 then 40
Paddington to Liverpool Street: 205 Direct
Victoria to Paddington: 36 or 436 Direct
Victoria to Waterloo: 211 Direct
Victoria to London Bridge: 11 then 17
Victoria to Fenchurch Street: C10 then 40
Victoria to Liverpool Street: 11 Direct
Waterloo to Paddington: 211 then 436
Waterloo to Victoria: 211 Direct
Waterloo to London Bridge: 381 Direct
Waterloo to Fenchurch Street: 381 then 40
Waterloo to Liverpool Street: 26 Direct
London Bridge to Paddington: 17 then 23
London Bridge to Victoria: 17 then 11
London Bridge to Waterloo: 381 Direct
London Bridge to Fenchurch Street: 40 Direct
London Bridge to Liverpool Street: 133 Direct
Fenchurch Street to Paddington: 40 then 205
Fenchurch Street to Victoria: 40 then C10
Fenchurch Street to Waterloo: 40 then 381
Fenchurch Street to London Bridge: 40 Direct
Fenchurch Street to Liverpool Street: 40 then 35
Liverpool Street to Paddington: 205 Direct
Liverpool Street to Victoria: 11 Direct
Liverpool Street to Waterloo: 26 Direct
Liverpool Street to London Bridge: 133 Direct
Liverpool Street to Fenchurch Street: 35 then 40

HTH,

Barry

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Totally ridiculous. Those with heavy luggage are going to be majorly
inconvenienced. The good old days of the rather quick stationlink are
over. At least the cabs are going to be making more money now.


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Totally ridiculous. Those with heavy luggage are going to be majorly
inconvenienced. The good old days of the rather quick stationlink are
over. At least the cabs are going to be making more money now.


The south route 705 was so underused, keeping it open is a waste of
money, considering the Tube is there & there are other buses. The
popular Rt 205 will be remaining.

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Barry Salter wrote:
Hi gang,

As you may know, London bus route 705 (Paddington - Liverpool Street

via
Waterloo) was withdrawn over the weekend (last trips ran on Friday

20th
May).

The latest issue of Newsrail Express (Number 289) contains a table
giving ATOC's suggested alternative routes.

Here's the list:

Paddington to Victoria: 36 or 436 Direct
Paddington to Waterloo: 436 then 211
Paddington to London Bridge: 23 then 17
Paddington to Fenchurch Street: 205 then 40
Paddington to Liverpool Street: 205 Direct
Victoria to Paddington: 36 or 436 Direct
Victoria to Waterloo: 211 Direct
Victoria to London Bridge: 11 then 17
Victoria to Fenchurch Street: C10 then 40
Victoria to Liverpool Street: 11 Direct
Waterloo to Paddington: 211 then 436
Waterloo to Victoria: 211 Direct
Waterloo to London Bridge: 381 Direct
Waterloo to Fenchurch Street: 381 then 40
Waterloo to Liverpool Street: 26 Direct
London Bridge to Paddington: 17 then 23
London Bridge to Victoria: 17 then 11
London Bridge to Waterloo: 381 Direct
London Bridge to Fenchurch Street: 40 Direct
London Bridge to Liverpool Street: 133 Direct
Fenchurch Street to Paddington: 40 then 205
Fenchurch Street to Victoria: 40 then C10
Fenchurch Street to Waterloo: 40 then 381
Fenchurch Street to London Bridge: 40 Direct
Fenchurch Street to Liverpool Street: 40 then 35
Liverpool Street to Paddington: 205 Direct
Liverpool Street to Victoria: 11 Direct
Liverpool Street to Waterloo: 26 Direct
Liverpool Street to London Bridge: 133 Direct
Liverpool Street to Fenchurch Street: 35 then 40

HTH,

Barry

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Totally ridiculous. Those with heavy luggage are going to be majorly
inconvenienced. The good old days of the rather quick stationlink are
over. At least the cabs are going to be making more money now.


When i lived in London, and had to head from the south of the river to
Paddington i never once with my heavy luggage used stationlink. Bakerloo,
Circle done it for me. Didnt get caught in any traffic jams as a result,


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I wonder really how useful the 705 was to anyone transferring between
stations. It is unlikely that a passenger would use a bus to transfer
between Waterloo, Victoria and London Bridge as in most cases a direct
interchange between trains is possible at Clapham Junction, Waterloo
East, Victoria etc. I suspect that Fenchurch Street isn't really a
major player when it comes to cross-London transfers. Other direct (and
more frequent) buses are available from Liverpool Street to all
stations (except Fenchurch Street) formerly served by the 705.
Paddington has other direct services to Liverpool Street and Victoria,
so the only real losses are Paddington-Waterloo and Paddington-London
Bridge - and many passengers between the West of England and the South
of England may well be better off changing at Reading and avoiding the
cross-London transfer altogether.

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malc wrote:
I wonder really how useful the 705 was to anyone transferring between
stations. It is unlikely that a passenger would use a bus to transfer
between Waterloo, Victoria and London Bridge as in most cases a direct
interchange between trains is possible at Clapham Junction, Waterloo
East, Victoria etc. I suspect that Fenchurch Street isn't really a
major player when it comes to cross-London transfers. Other direct (and
more frequent) buses are available from Liverpool Street to all
stations (except Fenchurch Street) formerly served by the 705.
Paddington has other direct services to Liverpool Street and Victoria,
so the only real losses are Paddington-Waterloo and Paddington-London
Bridge - and many passengers between the West of England and the South
of England may well be better off changing at Reading and avoiding the
cross-London transfer altogether.


I don't know... it seems to take ages to get from Reading to Waterloo
via SWT. A couple of weeks ago, with engineering work on the GW, I had
to go Clapham Junction - Reading, Reading - Swindon and Swindon -
Gloucester instead of the usual Paddington - Gloucester direct, and it
added well over an hour to my journey time - even with quite tight
connections at both Reading and Swindow.

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I don't know... it seems to take ages to get from Reading to Waterloo
via SWT

Yes, Reading - Waterloo takes just over an hour, whereas Reading -
Paddington takes just under half an hour, but if your intended
destination was actually on a route out of Waterloo, that difference
could soon disappear as you could change at Clapham Junction instead of
actually going into and out of Waterloo.

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malc wrote:
I wonder really how useful the 705 was to anyone transferring between
stations. It is unlikely that a passenger would use a bus to transfer
between Waterloo, Victoria and London Bridge as in most cases a

direct
interchange between trains is possible at Clapham Junction, Waterloo
East, Victoria etc. I suspect that Fenchurch Street isn't really a
major player when it comes to cross-London transfers. Other direct

(and
more frequent) buses are available from Liverpool Street to all
stations (except Fenchurch Street) formerly served by the 705.
Paddington has other direct services to Liverpool Street and

Victoria,
so the only real losses are Paddington-Waterloo and Paddington-London
Bridge - and many passengers between the West of England and the

South
of England may well be better off changing at Reading and avoiding

the
cross-London transfer altogether.


It was extremely useful to me, and often faster than taking a congested
overheated Underground train( or several such trains) last summer when
the Bakerloo was packing up frequently. I was visiting a relative in
Hospital in Kingston and the 705 was a real pleasure to travel in on
warm days. But it was tucked well out of sight of the main bus stops at
Waterloo and was unknown to a bus fanatic colleague of mine at
Paddington. No wonder I was often the only passenger.



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