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Regarding the recent bombings, does anybody know how badly damaged the
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Hi Guy's,
Regarding the recent bombings, does anybody know how badly damaged the
tunnels are and the infrastructure it's self?

Andy


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Hi Guy's,
Regarding the recent bombings, does anybody know how badly damaged the
tunnels are and the infrastructure it's self?


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Do you know who knows ? (Educated guesses allowed :-))

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does anybody know how badly damaged the
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Is it still a crime scene? If so, I doubt if anyone qualified to quantify
damage has been near it.

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That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes


And, for the present, it's been split in two!

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does anybody know how badly damaged the
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Is it still a crime scene? If so, I doubt if anyone qualified to quantify
damage has been near it.


Well, at the Saturday press conference two days after the bombing Tim
O'Toole stated that the Piccadilly line tunnel was intact,
specifically in response to a press question as to whther it was
"unsafe." Presumably they did a damage assessment immediately to
determine if it was safe enough to be worked in as a crime scene.
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Well, at the Saturday press conference two days after the bombing Tim
O'Toole stated that the Piccadilly line tunnel was intact,
specifically in response to a press question as to whther it was
"unsafe." Presumably they did a damage assessment immediately to
determine if it was safe enough to be worked in as a crime scene.


I think the harder issue is how damaged is all the signaling system ie
cables etc. Track is easy to repair, just cut out the busted bits and
bolt in the lovely new shiny bits. As I understand it, the cables used
for signaling are complex, varied and huge in quantity. And then there's
the age of the signaling system. Are there any 'spares' floating around?
or will they have to have new parts made from scratch?

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Well, at the Saturday press conference two days after the bombing Tim
O'Toole stated that the Piccadilly line tunnel was intact,


Just from what I've seen in the media and by the consequences of the
bombs it seems to me that they weren't all that powerful (otherwise
the carriages would have completely annihalated and no one inside
would have survived) so I suspect damage to the tunnels (which are
built a lot stronger than the trains) is probably limited to damaged
cabling and track.

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Well, at the Saturday press conference two days after the bombing Tim
O'Toole stated that the Piccadilly line tunnel was intact,
specifically in response to a press question as to whther it was
"unsafe." Presumably they did a damage assessment immediately to
determine if it was safe enough to be worked in as a crime scene.


I think the harder issue is how damaged is all the signaling system ie
cables etc. Track is easy to repair, just cut out the busted bits and
bolt in the lovely new shiny bits. As I understand it, the cables used
for signaling are complex, varied and huge in quantity. And then there's
the age of the signaling system. Are there any 'spares' floating around?
or will they have to have new parts made from scratch?


Remember the Camden Town derailment. I think that took about 2 weeks for it
to reopen. Wasn't the main delay there tracing where the damaged cables
went to.



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Boltar wrote:
Well, at the Saturday press conference two days after the bombing Tim
O'Toole stated that the Piccadilly line tunnel was intact,


Just from what I've seen in the media and by the consequences of the
bombs it seems to me that they weren't all that powerful (otherwise
the carriages would have completely annihalated and no one inside
would have survived) so I suspect damage to the tunnels (which are
built a lot stronger than the trains) is probably limited to damaged
cabling and track.

B2003


Cabling can be a problem though. It was on the news a while ago. The
reason the Northern Line took so long to get working last time that had
an accident was that they didn't have any up to date wiring diagrams.
If the Piccadilly line is the same then that could take a while too.



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