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Boltar wrote:


Really? Well thats news to me when I used it once for 3 trips and
didn't have enough to make a 4th even though I'd had the equivalent
value of a travelcard on it. Bug in the system? And what about the
maximum fare being deducted if you don't swipe it? That doesn't happen
with a travelcard.

B2003


Maybe that's where you went wrong, because you do have to keep touching
in and out, and the penalty fare that you pay for not touching in/out
does not count towards the daily cap.


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"eastender" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote:

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Boltar wrote:

but people who are here just for a day or 2 and want to tour the city
will
want 1 day travelcards which Osyer doesn't support.

Wrong - pre-pay Oyster caps at a cheaper rate than travelcards.


Only if one doesn't want to use NR.


For most tourists touring central London this is not an issue.


Hmm,

Greenwich
Richmond (& Ham House)
Hampton Court
Crystal Palace
Hampstead Heath

tim



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Really? Well thats news to me when I used it once for 3 trips and
didn't have enough to make a 4th even though I'd had the equivalent
value of a travelcard on it. Bug in the system?


When was "once"? The cap was introduced on 27 Feb 2005.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:00:42 -0000, "tim....."
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"eastender" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote:

"eastender" wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:

but people who are here just for a day or 2 and want to tour the city
will
want 1 day travelcards which Osyer doesn't support.

Wrong - pre-pay Oyster caps at a cheaper rate than travelcards.


Only if one doesn't want to use NR.


For most tourists touring central London this is not an issue.


Hmm,

Greenwich
Richmond (& Ham House)
Hampton Court
Crystal Palace
Hampstead Heath


Hampton Court is probably the only significant tourist attraction of
the latter four. Greenwich is accessible by DLR.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:18:05 -0000, tim..... wrote:

The cash on an Oyster card doesn't expire, strip cards usually
do (I've no idea about the dutch ones).


Oyster cards expire if you don't use them for 2 years.


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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:00:42 -0000, "tim....."
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"eastender" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote:

"eastender" wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:

but people who are here just for a day or 2 and want to tour the
city
will
want 1 day travelcards which Osyer doesn't support.

Wrong - pre-pay Oyster caps at a cheaper rate than travelcards.


Only if one doesn't want to use NR.

For most tourists touring central London this is not an issue.


Hmm,

Greenwich
Richmond (& Ham House)
Hampton Court
Crystal Palace
Hampstead Heath


Hampton Court is probably the only significant tourist attraction of
the latter four. Greenwich is accessible by DLR.


But is the punter going to know that. They'll look at the map, see
that NR is much quicker and go that way. And then they will find
out that their ticket isn't valid

tim


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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:18:05 -0000, tim..... wrote:

The cash on an Oyster card doesn't expire, strip cards usually
do (I've no idea about the dutch ones).


Oyster cards expire if you don't use them for 2 years.


I was going to say, no they don't.

But it seems that the go dormant.

What a piece of ****.

I better get a refund on mine before it dies.

tim


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In message , tim.....
writes

"eastender" wrote in message
...
"tim....." wrote:

"eastender" wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:

but people who are here just for a day or 2 and want to tour the city
will
want 1 day travelcards which Osyer doesn't support.

Wrong - pre-pay Oyster caps at a cheaper rate than travelcards.


Only if one doesn't want to use NR.


For most tourists touring central London this is not an issue.


Hmm,

Actually, very few tourists use NR services (which they usually refer to
as "Overground" in my experience.

Greenwich

Most go either by boat or by DLR. Both take them nearer most points of
interest than the NR services.

Richmond (& Ham House)

District Line usually.

Hampton Court

Yes, that one is a "biggie" for Overground. Probably the biggest buy
far I'd say.

Crystal Palace

Few go there.

Hampstead Heath

People usually end up taking the tube to Hampstead. Not especially
convenient but as with Richmond, that's where they see the relevant word
on the Tube Map!

The other NR-only destinations that spring to mind for me are Eltham
Palace and Syon Park. But the non tube services are usually a
challenge to all but the most adventurous!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
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In message , tim.....
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Hampton Court is probably the only significant tourist attraction of
the latter four. Greenwich is accessible by DLR.


But is the punter going to know that. They'll look at the map, see
that NR is much quicker and go that way. And then they will find out
that their ticket isn't valid


Actually what happens is that they see loads of publicity for boat trips
and go that way or else they look at the Tube Map and find access *only*
via the Jubilee and DLR.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk


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