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Old August 27th 03, 05:13 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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If it is really officially from TfL, then I would have thought it
would have an unsubscribe option possibly at the bottom of the email.


Well, I dont think anyone else would send stuff with links to TfL!
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David Walters wrote in
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Nothing useful in the headers. They come from a fairly anonymous
IP address that could be anything.

An example is at http://www.jellybaby.net/~david/tubespam.txt

No unsubscribe options and it's not very well written:
"If you can read this you are receiving this email in the
wrong format, your email may not be html enables"

David


LU have their own series of IP addresses, and this example did not
apparently originate from within that range.

Spolling mistooks are usually a good indication that an email is being
spoofed, the question is: why?
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On 28 Aug 2003 13:31:13 GMT, Peter Wright wrote:
David Walters wrote in
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An example is at http://www.jellybaby.net/~david/tubespam.txt


LU have their own series of IP addresses, and this example did not
apparently originate from within that range.


LU might have their IP range on the end of a connection that isn't
fast enough to send the number of emails they want to send. It's
very likely that bandwidth to a co-located server is cheaper then
getting a fatter pipe to LU HQ.

Spolling mistooks are usually a good indication that an email is being
spoofed, the question is: why?


I don't think it's spoofed, just badly put together. Most mass
mailings are.

David
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Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

If it is really officially from TfL, then either:
- you agreed at some past time to receive it, in which case it is good
practice for them to include an unsubscribe feature, or
- you haven't so agreed, in which case they're breaking the law.


What law is that? I didn't realise that the UK's anti-spam laws were that
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:32:19 GMT Richard J. wrote:
} Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
}
} If it is really officially from TfL, then either:
} - you agreed at some past time to receive it, in which case it is good
} practice for them to include an unsubscribe feature, or
} - you haven't so agreed, in which case they're breaking the law.
}
} What law is that? I didn't realise that the UK's anti-spam laws were that
} strict.

Obliquely. To send you mail they must keep you e-mail address and in so
doing fall under the data protection act.

Since a tightening up that came into force January such data may only
be used for the purpose for which it was gathered.

Top satisfy this you must have been presented with some text (paper or
web) explaining that they'd spam you if you did (opt in) or didn't (opt
out) this or that check box.

Further they may now only do so for a year before again ascertaining
your willingness to be spammed. Without your extended permission they
have to expunge "the data" ie your e-mail address.

Now I'm looking forward to a time when opt-outs are made illegal and all
such schemes require a positive opt-in action on the part of the
putative recipient. This is the way we do it at work and I had cause to
notice that the Telegraph site is the same.

Personally I wish that I'd kept more stringent records of various
transactions online. I am usually scrupulous about opting-out or not
opting-in as the case may be and am firmly convinced that I have never
given permission for the Really Useful Company to spam me. They persist
in doing so and I lack the means of demonstrating that I didn't say they
could.

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In article , Matthew
Malthouse writes
Since a tightening up that came into force January such data may only
be used for the purpose for which it was gathered.


Huh? What happened in January. The most recent DPA came into force in
1998.

Further they may now only do so for a year before again ascertaining
your willingness to be spammed. Without your extended permission they
have to expunge "the data" ie your e-mail address.


I'm not aware of any "1 year timeout" on permission. Source, please.
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