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Over 10 minutes on the number 17 bus tonight, to crawl from Ludgate Circus
to that ludicrous zebra crossing at St Paul's.

Is this something Boris can resolve, or does it fall within the
responsibilities of the old farts of the City of London?

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On Wed, 14 May 2008 21:03:56 +0100, "Chris Read"
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Over 10 minutes on the number 17 bus tonight, to crawl from Ludgate Circus
to that ludicrous zebra crossing at St Paul's.

Is this something Boris can resolve, or does it fall within the
responsibilities of the old farts of the City of London?


I have no idea whose responsibility it is but super Boris will surely
save the world (and banish traffic jams forever)- well that's the way
the media hype seems to be portraying him. The Standard even suggested
the sunshine was part of his "honeymoon period" since taking over.

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Over 10 minutes on the number 17 bus tonight, to crawl from Ludgate Circus
to that ludicrous zebra crossing at St Paul's.

Is this something Boris can resolve, or does it fall within the
responsibilities of the old farts of the City of London?

Think you'll find its the City of London. Taxi drivers have a moan about
the City fathers as we're not allowed to use most of the bus lanes in
the City but can do so in the Greater London area.

I agree that a light controlled crossing would make the traffic flow a
lot better there, although there had been a major road closure in the
east end and there may have been extra traffic in the area.

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On May 14, 11:35 pm, Mike Hughes wrote:
Think you'll find its the City of London. Taxi drivers have a moan about
the City fathers as we're not allowed to use most of the bus lanes in
the City but can do so in the Greater London area.


Don't be too upset. From what I've see when I used to work in the city
you cabbies are still allowed to do illegal u-turns in the middle of
the road, stop suddenly wherever you please and no matter how much
traffic is behind you to pick or drop off a fare and accelerate
through pedestrian crossings if they're flashing amber even if people
are still on them.

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Paul Corfield wrote:

I have no idea whose responsibility it is but super Boris will surely
save the world (and banish traffic jams forever)- well that's the way
the media hype seems to be portraying him. The Standard even suggested
the sunshine was part of his "honeymoon period" since taking over.


Sunshine or otherwise, the simple (and cheap for the City)
installation of a traffic light pedestrian crossing would solve the
problem.

Neil


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On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:10 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
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Don't be too upset. From what I've see when I used to work in the city
you cabbies are still allowed to do illegal u-turns in the middle of
the road, stop suddenly wherever you please and no matter how much
traffic is behind you to pick or drop off a fare and accelerate
through pedestrian crossings if they're flashing amber even if people
are still on them.


While that seems like a rant, taxis stopping in bus lanes are a *real*
problem. I think it's time London got a Singapore-style "taxi stop"
system in place on Red Routes and anywhere else with bus lanes.

Neil

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On May 15, 8:18 pm, (Neil Williams)
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:10 -0700 (PDT), Boltar

wrote:
Don't be too upset. From what I've see when I used to work in the city
you cabbies are still allowed to do illegal u-turns in the middle of
the road, stop suddenly wherever you please and no matter how much
traffic is behind you to pick or drop off a fare and accelerate
through pedestrian crossings if they're flashing amber even if people
are still on them.


While that seems like a rant, taxis stopping in bus lanes are a *real*


Its not a rant , its a fact.

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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:18:06PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:

While that seems like a rant, taxis stopping in bus lanes are a *real*
problem.


They're nothing like as much of a problem as delivery vans and lorries
parking in them. At least the cab will move off again very shortly, but
the lorry might be there for an hour or more.

Yes, it'll get a ticket. The driver doesn't care because his employer
accepts that as just a cost of doing business and just pays out. The
employer doesn't care because his customers are happy to eat the cost.

I think it's time London got a Singapore-style "taxi stop"
system in place on Red Routes and anywhere else with bus lanes.


The whole point of a taxi is that you can pick one up anywhere without
having to find a bus stop.

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On Fri, 16 May 2008, David Cantrell wrote:

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:18:06PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:

While that seems like a rant, taxis stopping in bus lanes are a *real*
problem.


They're nothing like as much of a problem as delivery vans and lorries
parking in them. At least the cab will move off again very shortly, but
the lorry might be there for an hour or more.

Yes, it'll get a ticket. The driver doesn't care because his employer
accepts that as just a cost of doing business and just pays out. The
employer doesn't care because his customers are happy to eat the cost.


Good, if depressing, point. So, we start issuing points for parking
violations by commercial vehicle drivers, then?

I think it's time London got a Singapore-style "taxi stop"
system in place on Red Routes and anywhere else with bus lanes.


The whole point of a taxi is that you can pick one up anywhere without
having to find a bus stop.


Which is great, as long as it doesn't interfere with the huge numbers of
people who could be bothered to find a bus stop getting where they want to
go. Which is why bus lanes were mentioned.

tom

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