On 8 Jul, 15:49, Tom Anderson wrote:

East Midlands news today crowing about a Bombardier order for South
Africa that they've just started to deliver; also mentioned they were
building new trains for London "for the Olympics". What line are they
for (not Crossrail or Javelin, obviously).

No, no - they're for the 500 metre trainpull.

The Olympic white-water rafting up in Broxbourne, perchance? (yes, the
Olympics is stretching out that far from London...)

Richard

In message .uk, at
23:24:00 on Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
remarked:
They have no clue how trains should propel themselves in the
event of power failure.

Apparently the plan is to have some trapdoors in the floor, and hope
that Fred Flintstone is aboard.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:31:28 on Tue, 8 Jul
2008, Paul Scott remarked:
and an order for new units for the Stansted Express (although that has
gone a little quiet).

East Midlands news today crowing about a Bombardier order for South
Africa that they've just started to deliver; also mentioned they were
building new trains for London "for the Olympics". What line are they
for (not Crossrail or Javelin, obviously).

Presumably a reference to the Victoria line stock, Sub-Surface trains,
and the NLL/ELL Electrostars.

The South African trains are Electrostars with a pointy front end stuck on.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In message , at
23:44:15 on Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
East Midlands news today crowing about a Bombardier order for South
Africa that they've just started to deliver; also mentioned they were
building new trains for London "for the Olympics". What line are they
for (not Crossrail or Javelin, obviously).

Presumably a reference to the Victoria line stock, Sub-Surface trains,
and the NLL/ELL Electrostars.

The South African trains are Electrostars with a pointy front end stuck on.

I noticed they had 2+3 seating, and the two gents being interviewed (one
from Derby and one from South Africa) pretty much filled a set of three
seats between the two of them
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message .uk, at
23:24:00 on Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Colin Rosenstiel
remarked:
They have no clue how trains should propel themselves in the
event of power failure.

Apparently the plan is to have some trapdoors in the floor, and hope that
Fred Flintstone is aboard.

One of Roger Ford's mates suggested a Spearfish Torpedo power pack, running
on all sorts of 'not very green at all' fuels, but producing 1 MW from a 21"
diameter tube.

Probably waterproof as well, so you could hang one under each carriage...

OTOH the DfT probably fancy roof mounted solar panels (complete with
impossible levels of efficiency) and gauge cleared wind generators.

Paul