On Jul 28, 9:28*am, Charlie Hulme
wrote:
Tony Polson wrote:
"It is hoped to emulate the success of the recently revamped St
Pancras, whose features, such as Europe's longest champagne bar, have
proved a hit with passengers.

Is that champagne bar popular with passengers? Travel
first class and you get a free glass of champagne anyway.

IMHO, articles published in the London "Evening Standard" do not mean
very much. The ES makes "Rail" look like a publication of stature.

Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

"1506" wrote

Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

Peter

On Jul 28, 6:30*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"1506" wrote



Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? *One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. *Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. *There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.


If one was gonna run from Hampton Court to Dartford, wouldn't it be
simpler to run via Wandsworth Road etc? (Or does everything have to
go to Hackney for some reason?)

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:

Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? *One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. *Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. *There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.


If one was gonna run from Hampton Court to Dartford, wouldn't it be
simpler to run via Wandsworth Road etc? (Or does everything have to
go to Hackney for some reason?)

That would miss out the rather important stops at Waterloo and London
Bridge...

On Jul 28, 7:58*pm, asdf wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? *One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. *Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. *There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

If one was gonna run from Hampton Court to Dartford, wouldn't it be
simpler to run via Wandsworth Road etc? *(Or does everything have to
go to Hackney for some reason?)

That would miss out the rather important stops at Waterloo and London
Bridge...-

They have plenty of services to Dartford and are pretty easy to get to
from Hampton Court etc (OK one change for London Bridge).

MIG wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:58 pm, asdf wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. There would also be economies
of fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without
importing more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South
Eastern Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed
by a train when he was walking on the spur.

If one was gonna run from Hampton Court to Dartford, wouldn't it be
simpler to run via Wandsworth Road etc? (Or does everything have to
go to Hackney for some reason?)

That would miss out the rather important stops at Waterloo and London
Bridge...-

They have plenty of services to Dartford and are pretty easy to get to
from Hampton Court etc (OK one change for London Bridge).

The evidence presented at the TL2K inquiry stated that 95% of passengers got
on or off in the central area. This suggest that a Hampton to Dartford
service missing London might only have 5% loadings.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:42:39 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:

Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? *One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. *Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. *There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

If one was gonna run from Hampton Court to Dartford, wouldn't it be
simpler to run via Wandsworth Road etc? *(Or does everything have to
go to Hackney for some reason?)

That would miss out the rather important stops at Waterloo and London
Bridge...-

They have plenty of services to Dartford and are pretty easy to get to
from Hampton Court etc (OK one change for London Bridge).

Err, not after you've replaced the Waterloo/Charing Cross services
with the service via Wandsworth Road...

On Jul 28, 10:30*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"1506" wrote



Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? *One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. *Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. *There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

Peter

How about operation by a single franchise holder, New Southern Railway
perhaps?

On Jul 28, 6:30 pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

I prefer the quote from HG Wells ''War Of The Worlds'':

quote

Everyone connected with the terminus seemed
ill-tempered.

About five o'clock the gathering crowd in the station was immensely
excited by the opening of the line of communication, which is almost
invariably closed, between the South-Eastern and the South-Western
stations, and the passage of carriage trucks bearing huge guns and
carriages crammed with soldiers. These were the guns that were
brought up from Woolwich and Chatham to cover Kingston. There was
an exchange of pleasantries: "You'll get eaten!" "We're the
beast-tamers!" and so forth. A little while after that a squad of
police came into the station and began to clear the public off the
platforms, and my brother went out into the street again.

/quote

Obviously the public must have been taking pictures.

--
Nick

D7666 wrote:

the quote from HG Wells ''War Of The Worlds'':

almost invariably

Sigh.