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1. New display equipment without obsolete componenets
2. Wired into iBus.


I am pretty sure there are plans to do both of these.

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On 25 Jan, 08:52, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:

"Maria" wrote:
I disagree with this, most of the people having to use the bus might not
have portable data access, be able to use it or want to pay to use it.
Also pulling out your mobile or blackberry at a bus shelter might mean
that you are forceably separated from it. *No, fix countdown *I say..


Both. But fix countdown *first*

1. New display equipment without obsolete componenets
2. Wired into iBus.


Is the Countdown display equipment at bus stops really obsolete?
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"Mizter T" wrote:
Both. But fix countdown *first*
1. New display equipment without obsolete componenets
2. Wired into iBus.


Is the Countdown display equipment at bus stops really obsolete?


When iBus was 'launched', one of the arguments justifying the cost was that
as well as being technically superior (which it most certainly is), it would
deal with the problem that spare parts were getting increasingly difficult
to obtain. Accellerated removal rather than repair of knackered boxes
supports this, but I've yet to see anything 'official' - either way.
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On 25 Jan, 18:22, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:

Both. But fix countdown *first*
1. New display equipment without obsolete componenets
2. Wired into iBus.

Is the Countdown display equipment at bus stops really obsolete?


When iBus was 'launched', one of the arguments justifying the cost was that
as well as being technically superior (which it most certainly is), it would
deal with the problem that spare parts were getting increasingly difficult
to obtain. *Accellerated removal rather than repair of knackered boxes
supports this, but I've yet to see anything 'official' - either way.


But I dare say that may just have been referring to the beacon-based
tracking system as opposed to the rather more visible dot-matrix
displays at bus stops.
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On 25 Jan, 18:58, wrote:

In article ,
(Andrew Heenan) wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote:
Both. But fix countdown *first*
1. New display equipment without obsolete componenets
2. Wired into iBus.


Is the Countdown display equipment at bus stops really obsolete?


When iBus was 'launched', one of the arguments justifying the cost
was that as well as being technically superior (which it most
certainly is), it would deal with the problem that spare parts were
getting increasingly difficult to obtain. *Accellerated removal
rather than repair of knackered boxes supports this, but I've yet
to see anything 'official' - either way.


Presumably removal of some also generates a supply of spares for those
remaining in use?


As I said in my other reply to Andrew, the "obsolete equipment" that
the iBus system will replace is nothing to do with the actual
Countdown dot-matrix displays - after all this is hardly specialist
equipment, it's just standard off-the-shelf stuff- the obsolete
equipment argument surely revolves around the whole beacon tracking
system on which Countdown is based. AIUI this beacon tracking system
used to form the basis of TfL's bus tracking system (see earlier posts
in this thread), but that role has now moved on to the GPS tracking
system employed in the iBus project.
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"Mizter T" wrote:
But I dare say that may just have been referring to the
beacon-based tracking system as opposed to the rather
more visible dot-matrix displays at bus stops.


Your guess is as good as mine - fact is, they don't fix them very well or
very often, and in my part of the world, they seem tobe removing them if the
y break down (islington).

But it's fair to say that LED displays have moved significantly in the past
few years; it's certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility that they ARE
obsolete.

Frankly, I don't care - so long as they work!

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