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Tom Barry wrote:

the 38, the original announcement read as if the off-peak frequency
was unchanged from bendies - is that still the case? Note that this is
the first time ever that someone's tried to run the 38 with single-door
boarding double deckers, and thus pretty much counts as a Boris
transport innovation.

It ran for years with RMs, and I suspect for years before that with RTs,
STLs, LTs or STs - I think they were all single-door boarding double
deckers!

Peter Beale

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"David Cantrell" wrote:

38 frequently turns short of its destination right now, so maybe
actually putting that in the timetable will make the service more
reliable.


Indeed. Many get nowhere near Hackney. It's not that rare to see a 38
leaving Victoria with a short run to Piccadilly Circus. Certainly in RM
days, I think the 38 had about the most blinded short turns of any TfL
route. Mildmay Park always sounded like a pleasant enough place to suffer an
enforced change of bus.

Chris





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"Neil Williams" wrote:

Having been working near Tower Bridge and having walked from Aldwych
to there every day last week, it is quite noticeable that there is
pretty much always a Red Arrow or two in sight whenever you look up
since they were "debendified".


That's more or less the reverse of my morning walk, and I concur with your
Red Arrow sightings. The Thames Path on a crisp autumnal morning is an
uplifting way to start the day, and normally only about 5 minutes longer
than waiting for a 521 or 17 at London Bridge then crawling down Cannon
Street.

Chris


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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:45:49 +0000, Peter Beale
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It ran for years with RMs, and I suspect for years before that with RTs,
STLs, LTs or STs - I think they were all single-door boarding double
deckers!


And in these days of Oyster, probably no slower at boarding, either.

Neil

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On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:07:14PM -0000, Chris Read wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote:
38 frequently turns short of its destination right now, so maybe
actually putting that in the timetable will make the service more
reliable.

Indeed. Many get nowhere near Hackney. It's not that rare to see a 38
leaving Victoria with a short run to Piccadilly Circus.


And it's not at all uncommon to have fewer than half of them get as far
as Victoria going in the other direction.

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