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Old November 28th 07, 07:38 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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On Nov 28, 8:27 am, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
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MIG wrote:
On 27 Nov, 12:48, "Clive." wrote:
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MIG writesIn a non-safety-critical
context, the poster used an everyday term (he
didn't say northbound, but that the train headed north). There
can't be any doubt about what he meant (and which you disputed the
truth of, so must have understood).


Surely there can't be that many loons who carry a compass around in
London. (Incase they get lost?)
All the underground lines, in maps for public consumption show all
lines to be either north south or east west, for clarity, what's
wrong with holding to that convention?
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Clive.


I haven't seen any maps showing Southgate east of Arnos Grove.


I'm sure you must have seen this one on the Piccadilly Line ...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/piccadilly.pdf


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/northern.pdf

Does this mean Kennington is west of Morden as well?

Peter Smyth-


Yes. Yes it is. I give in.

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:48:30PM +0000, Clive. wrote:

All the underground lines, in maps for public consumption show all lines
to be either north south or east west, for clarity


No they don't. See here, where the Picadilly line looks like it runs
from west to east between Uxbridge and Ruislip, then northwest to
southeast from Ruislip to Rayners Lane, then north tosouth between
Rayners Lane and Acton Town:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

and that's just one tiny part of the map.

what's wrong with holding to that convention?


If I were at Rayners Lane and told you that "that train's going west"
and "that train's going south" it would be obvious what I meant. If on
the other hand I were at Moor Park, then according to the map both
Watford and Harrow are east, according to the map, but in opposite
directions. Which is why if it's desperately important, then using
compass directions is stupid.

And then there's the Circle line, where eastbound becomes southbound
becomes westbound becomes northbound. Better to describe a train as "at
Baker street headed for Liverpool St".

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I wonder what it's called now when they continue to Woodford after
Hainault?


Inner Rail and Outer Rail. In fact, the whole line from Leytonstone to
Woodford Junction via Hainault is so-labelled. So a train from Ealing
Broadway to Woodford via Hainault is:
- Eastbound from EB to Leytonstone
- Inner Rail from Leytonstone to Woodford Junction
- Westbound from Woodford Junction to Woodford station.

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On Nov 28, 4:22 pm, "Clive D. W. Feather" cl...@on-the-
train.demon.co.uk wrote:
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I wonder what it's called now when they continue to Woodford after
Hainault?


Inner Rail and Outer Rail. In fact, the whole line from Leytonstone to
Woodford Junction via Hainault is so-labelled. So a train from Ealing
Broadway to Woodford via Hainault is:
- Eastbound from EB to Leytonstone
- Inner Rail from Leytonstone to Woodford Junction
- Westbound from Woodford Junction to Woodford station.



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On Nov 28, 3:26 pm, David Cantrell wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:48:30PM +0000, Clive. wrote:
All the underground lines, in maps for public consumption show all lines
to be either north south or east west, for clarity


No they don't. See here, where the Picadilly line looks like it runs
from west to east between Uxbridge and Ruislip, then northwest to
southeast from Ruislip to Rayners Lane, then north tosouth between
Rayners Lane and Acton Town:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

and that's just one tiny part of the map.

what's wrong with holding to that convention?


If I were at Rayners Lane and told you that "that train's going west"
and "that train's going south" it would be obvious what I meant. If on
the other hand I were at Moor Park, then according to the map both
Watford and Harrow are east, according to the map, but in opposite
directions. Which is why if it's desperately important, then using
compass directions is stupid.


The posting that led to this was neither desperately important nor in
any way ambiguous.



And then there's the Circle line, where eastbound becomes southbound
becomes westbound becomes northbound. Better to describe a train as "at
Baker street headed for Liverpool St".

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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 05:18:42PM -0800, MIG wrote:
On Nov 28, 3:26 pm, David Cantrell wrote:
If I were at Rayners Lane and told you that "that train's going west"
and "that train's going south" it would be obvious what I meant. If on
the other hand I were at Moor Park, then according to the map both
Watford and Harrow are east, according to the map, but in opposite
directions. Which is why if it's desperately important, then using
compass directions is stupid.

The posting that led to this was neither desperately important nor in
any way ambiguous.


A point that I have made a couple of times now. But then other people
chimed in with what-ifs when it *would* be important. It's called topic
drift. It happens a lot in conversations both online and off.

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