On 7 Dec, 11:34, John B wrote:
On Dec 7, 8:13*am, MIG wrote:





On 7 Dec, 01:30, "solar penguin" wrote:

Hi everyone.

This is probably a very obvious question that's been dealt with dozens
of times already, but Google doesn't seem to be turning anything up.

Currently, if you own a paper point-to-point season ticket, and want to
extend an off-peak return journey beyond its furthest point, you can
buy, from your local station, an off-peak cheap day return for the
excess portion before you start your journey.

For eaxmple, say you had a season ticket between Gipsy Hill and Croydon
because that's where you live and/or work, but you want to visit Sutton
one weekend to do your shopping, because that's less of a dump than
Croydon. *You can buy an an off-peak cheap day return from Croydon to
Sutton at the Gipsy Hill ticket office.

What are we supposed to do when off-peak paper tickets in London are
abolished next year? *Since AIUI point-to-point seasons won't be
available under Oyster next year, and will continue to be only issued on
paper tickets, we won't even have the luxury of using those newfangled
OEP things. *Instead the choice seems to be between either

1) buying a full-price peak-hour anytime return for the excess portion
before starting the journey even though that's a more expensive fare,

2) travelling the first section using the season, getting out of the
train at West Croydon, going to the ticket office there, using your
season to let you out of the barriers if theyi're in use, touching in
with Oyster, returning to the platform, waiting for the next train, and
continuing to Sutton,

or 3) leaving the season at home and just using Oyster PAYG all the way
even though that means paying twice for the bit covered by the season..

Those people moaining about OEPs just don't know how lucky they really
are...

That's exactly the situation now when extending a journey on LU with a
paper travelcard.

It's not a problem.

Having to get off the train to touch in and out is perfectly
acceptable.

Now, never again question the benefits of and benevolent intentions
behind Oyster.

Haha.

The point is, on LU it isn't a problem, because on LU there's no
reason to have a paper season ticket and paper season tickets aren't
sold.

On NR, there is a reason to have a paper season ticket and paper
season tickets are sold, so it is a problem.


So people with paper travelcards bought from NR don't use LU?

Yes, I know there are various unreliable and inconvenient ways of
making sure that you always have your travelcard on Oyster, but there
are still cases where you can't.

For example, outboundary 1 - 6 travelcard and wanting to travel on the
Metropolitan beyond zone 6 at the Oyster rate. Yes, it's happened to
me.