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[email protected] · December 31st 09, 06:04 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article
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(John B) wrote:

On Dec 31, 5:41*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
I assume the inconvenience reference is London Travelwatch
considering the setting of an OEP to be as inconvenient as
queuing at a ticket office to purchase a ticket.

No - the inconvenience is that if I have a z12 Gold Card on Oyster
(which I do) and want the cheapest fare to Surbiton, then I still
need to queue up for a paper BZ2-Surbiton ticket, rather than
getting an IEP, touching in at Waterloo and touching out at Surbiton.

You're speaking from your own experience. I was attempting to
the London Travelwatch words. *We seem to have come to two translate
different conclusions - hardly a shock when it comes to this complex
subject!

I wasn't speaking from experience here (since IEPs haven't yet come
in) - just putting in concrete examples to make it a bit clearer. LTW
said:

"If you have an annual ticket (Gold Card) it will be cheaper (and
equally as inconvenient) to get a paper extension, as you need to
currently"

To me, that means:

"If you have an annual Travelcard on Oyster and want to travel outside
your zones on NR, it will be cheaper to get a paper extension ticket
with the Gold Card discount from a manned ticket office (which is
inconvenient, and which you need to do at the moment) than to use the
Oyster PAYG functionality with no Gold Card discount".

I'm not clear what the fares are either way in this example from Saturday.
What are they?

IEP doesn't even apply here - this point simply reflects the
unfathomably weird / crooked (according to taste) fact that even
though discounts for YP, Senior and Disabled railcards have been
enabled on Oyster, Network and Gold Card discounts haven't.

But the only railcard discounts are to caps, so would they apply anyway
for a simple BZ2-Surbiton day return trip?

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Colin Rosenstiel