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Old January 10th 10, 09:01 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)

On 3 Jan, 20:02, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:
On 3 Jan, 19:09, Jonathan Harris wrote:





On 3 Jan, 17:40, "Paul Scott" wrote:


Chris wrote:
On 3 Jan, 15:52, trainmanUK wrote:
The whole reason for these OEP is that many NR stations do
not have barriers so if you get to your destination and see no one
there you can just walk off the station with out paying (Touching
out)


Not so....all in-zone NR stations are or will have Oyster validators -
and it is your responsibility toi touch out. Barriers or no.


ISTM you've missed the very point of the previous post. He explained exactly
why OEPs are needed. At unbarriered stations there is nothing whatsoever to
stop a passenger who entered elsewhere with a season travelcard ignoring a
validator. *The TOCs aren't prepared to take that obvious revenue risk - but
TfL do already, and are prepared to accept it.


Paul S


But ISTR that the only ungated stations on the underground are Mill
Hill East (because they don't fit) and Roding Valley (because the
number of passengers doesn't justify it). *If TfL want to leave
barriers open somewhere to save on staff costs and then be subject to
revenue risk, that's a different matter. I appreciate that there are
now plenty of LO stations wthout barriers and various 'open'
interfaces with National Rail but the number is small relative to the
number of NR stations that are ungated.


Jonathan


Finsbury Park is not gated, and one entrance at *West Harrow and
Finchley Central aren't either.- Hide quoted text -

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Nor West Ruisilip if you walk down to Chiltern platforms and out to
car park
Sudbury town north gate appears to be almost never closed ( although
i never travel in peaks so cannot confirm peak situation)

HTH Phil