On Jan 22, 4:33*am, "DW downunder" noname wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote in message

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w.r.t. the first point about Shoreditch High Street, as I suggested
elsewhere on this thread if SHS had been in zone 2 as was originally
planned then price wise it may well have been advantageous for people
to choose it over London Bridge (i.e. Travelcard would not need z2
validity), however now that it's going to be in zone 1 then it may
well remain advantageous for them to stick with a rail-only season to
London Terminals (i.e. London Bridge).

An example - Crystal Palace to somewhere in the City - all prices are
monthlies...

z2&3 Travelcard - £73.00
z1-3 Travelcard - £116
Crystal Palace to London Terminals - £74.90

If SHS had been in z2, then if it was a more convenient location then
the clear choice for the commuter would have been the z2&3 Travelcard
(which would also have afforded them bus travel anywhere in London
too).

Now that SHS is in zone 1, they'd need to decide whether it was
worthwhile or not to splash out on a z1 Travelcard - or indeed a z1
PAYG fare - read on...

***BIG qualifier to the above!***
Importantly to all these calculations we don't yet know two things...

(1) What Oyster PAYG fare will be charged for said journey - though
it's likely that for a straightforward commute, PAYG will still be
cheaper than a season Travelcard (though poss. not an annual), but one
has to factor in any leisure travel too.

(2) Whether there might be some kind of rail-only season available for
travel to SHS. My suspicion is no there won't be.

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And may I ask, for those who walked from LB, what would be the pricing and
access issues if they were to use Whitechapel instead?

Whitechapel is and will remain in zone 2, but it's that bit further
away from the City - it will certainly be an option for anyone who
works on that edge of the City (say around Aldgate) and is willing to
walk a bit, but the lay of the land makes it that bit less attractive
to do so - SHS is closer to where it's going on (in City office terms
- Whitechapel market seems to be where it's at for dodgy DVD street
sales...).

So, from points south Whitechapel + walk is a possible option for
avoiding zone 1. The old Shoreditch ELL station (in zone 2) was also
used by a cadre of City commuters - indeed it only had a peak hours
service (though the service window was quite wide), but as we now know
the quasi-replacement SHS station will be in zone 1.

Coming from points north, then one could get off at Hoxton station
(zone 1/2 border, thus only paying for a z2 fare) and walk down into
the City, but again it's a bit of a distance, prob. more so for many
City destinations than it is from Whitechapel, and given that the
furthest away pax will have come from without a change is Highbury &
Islington I'm not sure that many would be willing to do this.

That said, for anyone working in the vicinity of the Old Street
roundabout, then a walk over from Hoxton is rather more doable. So
there's a possibility of the ELL taking a few pax away from FCC's
Great Northern Electrics / Northern City line service into Moorgate
via Old Street, dependent on where they're heading of course (and also
where they're starting from - if it's Highbury & Islington that's one
thing, but if people are coming from further out say on the Great
Northern Electrics service then faffing about changing at H&I becomes
less attractive, esp. if the walk is the same or longer at the other
end!).