"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
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Paul Corfield wrote

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:23 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

The Oyster issue got sorted, but again Yesterday I came up by
Travelcard.
This was a "Super-Off-Peak" travelcard, thus I can't come home
between 4
and 7pm, which is OK, since I didn't plan to.

What I didn't expect is to be told by an inspector that I couldn't
travel,
even within London, on any SWT service between those hours, on the
Travelcard I had.

What nonsense. The "Super off peak" ness of the ticket applies only
to
the SWT journey. SWT cannot unilaterally apply a usage restriction
within London on routes and services not under their control.

And SWT (as opposed to their ill-trained staff) don't pretend to so
apply it.

As I posted on 5th Jan under "SWT outside the zones - evening peak
changes"

http://www.southwesttrains.co.uk/any...k-advance.aspx
click on -Off-Peak and Super Off-Peak fares-
[...]
From Monday 4 January 2010, the return portion of a {Super Off-Peak}
Day Return or Day Travelcard will change. You cannot use it to leave
London Waterloo, Vauxhall, Queenstown Road or Clapham Junction to
stations outside London Zones 1-6 between 16:00 and 19:00, Monday to
Friday. A map of this area is available here. If you wish to make your
return journey during this time, you should buy an Off Peak Day Return
or Off Peak Day Travelcard
==

Note 'to stations outside London Zones 1-6' which is Paul C's 'within
London' point.


They've actually dug them selves a big hole with this one, at least for the
travelcard version, because the published terms only seek to prevent you
leaving those stations listed above. So if you use the 'travelcard validity'
to Wimbledon for example, on a stopping train, you SHOULD then be able to
use the ticket for the rest of your journey to 'somewhere outside the
zones'.

But as we also know from the earlier thread, the website restrictions are
not the same as those in the current fares manual - which suggest you cannot
join the trains at all during the blackout period, and the example was shown
of the restriction also applying at Wimbledon.

The typical grey area all the TOCs seem keen to introduce with monotonous
regularity...

Paul S