On Jan 26, 11:37*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
DRH wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:55 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
DRH wrote:
Putting the ODTC and in its variants on Oyster would obviate the
need for all/much of the PAYG infrastructure - yellow validators,
pink validators, OSIs, OEPs, Oyster helpline and all. The system has
become ridiculously complex to the point where even those, like
posters here, with a reasonable understanding of it, can be foxed.

If you get rid of all those things how will the system combine a
couple of short single journeys with an interchange outside the
gateline into one? Are you saying why bother, just charge a day
travelcard rate anyway?

Paul S

A value judgement: either pay two single fares (if these are the only
journeys you make in a day) or *buy a ODTC (if you are making
several). * As in most fare systems, there is an element of inequality
which can only be avoided/reduced by immensely complex systems like
PAYG.

But how many journeys combine two short single journeys with an
interchange outside the gateline? *I imagine these are far from the
norm. They become less of an issue if single fares are not set at
draconian levels.

I believe they are quite common from areas in South London into zone 1 via
main line terminals.

Paul S

A part solution is some form of 'short hop' fare that reduces the cost
disparity between a single continuous journey and two journeys
necessary only because of the historical/geographic quirks of the
transport system, but which equate to the same distance covered. In
Europe, the transfer ticket is an example.

DRH