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Old January 31st 10, 10:00 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default 'TfL's 'Scrooge-like' £1 ticket for short-cut criticised'

Mizter T wrote:


Thanks Matthew - I'm obviously out of date! That is at least a
straightforward, albeit slightly clunky, way of dealing with it.

I was imagining there either being standalone Oyster readers for
Waterloo East, or otherwise some complex arrangement whereby the LU
gates were programmed to take account of the possibility that the
journey might continue onwards on NR or LU depending on which side the
passenger arrived at. I think the chosen solution is probably for the
best (though it's also rather odd sounding!).

It's worth noting that if either set of gates is locked open for
whatever reason, e.g. no staff to attend to it (more likely to be the
Southeastern gates!) then pax using Oyster PAYG would still need to
negotiate both set of gates, i.e. touch-out on one set, then touch-in
again.

I remember finding some very bored Southeastern RPIs in the no-mans
land of the hall once - was a bit strange to have them request sight
of my ticket - which was actually an Oyster plus season Travelcard,
which one of them scanned with a handheld reader - then almost
immediately having to touch my Oyster on the LU gate.

I'm left wondering whether a PAYG user arriving on Southeastern who
then uses the shortcut through Southwark tube station (i.e. to get
straight out the other side) might well end up getting charged the
through NR+LU fare, rather than the NR fare. That's a simple enough
experiment to do... though I'm never quite sure when the Waterloo East
entrance to Southwark tube station is open, as it's closed later in
the evening and also maybe for some of the weekend.l

Any idea if Waterloo East now has gates on the main way via the high
level walkway nowadays?


Nope - there is a mini gateline at the top of the stairs to Sandell St,
but no gates on the bridge to Waterloo (or at the bottom of the
escalators), just validators where the bridge joins the Waterloo East
'ticket hall'. I presume there isn't room anywhere to install the number
of gates that would be needed for a station that busy.
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