On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:33:18 -0800 (PST),
Mizter T wrote:
Re LM and experimentation - I'm not so sure it would be a good venue
for testing the waters actually, because Oyster PAYG was fully
available on LM between Euston, H&W and Watford Junction before the
great PAYG expansion of January gone and they obviously didn't have
any requirement for an OEP type arrangement back then. Plus all three
stations are gated too, though yes, LM use ungated platforms at
Euston. Also OEPs are not required for travel on the parallel London
Overground DC line service (LO doesn't count as NR for OEP and other
fare purposes), so I have my doubts as to whether OEPs are really a
requirement on this line, and maybe its just easier to say they are
for purposes of presenting a consistent picture across all NR lines in
London. And even if they are technically required, I rather suspect
that requirement might not be enforced in reality. Oh, and I don't
think LM guards automatically have the authority to issue PFs, do they?

I'm pretty sure LM guards still don't have the ability to check oyster
cards at all so they can't even check whether PAYG is correctly touched
in or not, let alone whether there is an OEP present on a oyster season
ticket.

(As an aside I recently went back to a Gold Card for Watford
Junction-Euston instead of using PAYG. In the first week I managed to
twice use my oyster card - once "correctly" at both ends and a second
time when leaving the platform 16 at Euston where the "beep, beep" of
people touching their cards was irresistable and I had to join in. -
There would have been a third case about a month later except that after
the first two I moved my oyster card to my wallet instead of with my
season ticket. TfL have refunded the money after I sent them a
photocopy of my season ticket.)

Tim.

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